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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Sep-17 11:34:46
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Home::1 and SoHo::1 allowances increased


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In reference to aastatus.net/2429:
We have changed the monthly quota allowances on Home::1 and SoHo::1 today, increasing all of the sub terabyte rates by 50GB per month, without changing prices.

I.e. you now get 200GB for the previous price of 150GB, and 300GB for the previous price of 250GB.

Existing customers have had this additional amount added to their September quota.


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Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 03-Sep-17 11:45:34
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Is this in response to Adrian's blog?

In any case it's welcoming to hear and thanks for sharing it.
Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-Sep-17 16:49:06
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And now also "Quota Bonus" - https://aastatus.net/2434
I am pleased to confirm we have now launched "Quota Bonus"

The concept is simple, and applies to Home::1 and SoHo::1 on all levels including terabyte.

You start your billing month with your quota as normal, but get an extra bonus that is half of the unused quota, if any, from the previous month.

This allows people to build up a reserve and allow for occasional higher months without needing top-up.

Thanks to all of the customers for the feedback on my blog posts on this. --Adrian.

P.S. yes, it is sort of cumulative, see examples on http://aa.net.uk/broadband-quota.html


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Standard User 23Prince
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-Sep-17 17:01:00
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That's brilliant!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 14-Sep-17 01:15:46
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Ummm.

Brilliant for the customer, but a bit odd, to the point of making me wonder if it has been fully thought through.

As an aside, they seem unsure about the word "cumulative". Rightly so. The word they are thinking of is compound(ed).

I'm too tired to do the mental arithmetic for how long it takes before their example takes before the bonus starts multiplying ludicrously, but it isn't long. It would quickly become possible for a savvy customer to reduce from their 300GB tariff to the 150GB, whilst still using 200GB every month and increasing their compounded allowance.

Unless it us covered in the small print of their T & Cs, for instance that a downgrade of the contracted usage resets the accumulated bonus to zero.

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Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Sep-17 03:11:49
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I had to use Python to get my head around it (Excel will also work). Initially, I did think the figure would "run-away", but I don't think it does.

Here is their 300Gb/month package with 200Gb/month usage. q is your actual quota value for the month, p is the package you are on.

>>> q=p=300
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
350.0
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
375.0
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
387.5
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
393.75
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
396.875
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
398.4375
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.21875
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.609375
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.8046875
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.90234375
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.951171875
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.975585938
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.987792969
>>> q=p+(q-200)*0.5; print q
399.993896484

So, this behaviour would tend you to a monthly allowance of 400Gb/month.

Here's the same thing but if you used 50Gb/month on a 300Gb/month quota:

>>> q=p=300
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
425.0
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
487.5
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
518.75
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
534.375
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
542.1875
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
546.09375
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
548.046875
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.0234375
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.51171875
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.755859375
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.877929688
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.938964844
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.969482422
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.984741211
>>> q=p+(q-50)*0.5; print q
549.992370605

250Gb/month on a 300Gb/month quota:

>>> q=p=300
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
325.0
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
337.5
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
343.75
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
346.875
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
348.4375
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.21875
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.609375
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.8046875
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.90234375
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.951171875
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.975585938
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.987792969
>>> q=p+(q-250)*0.5; print q
349.993896484

And finally, for good measure, a usage of 500Gb/month on their 1TB/month package:

>>> q=p=1000
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1250.0
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1375.0
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1437.5
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1468.75
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1484.375
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1492.1875
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1496.09375
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1498.046875
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.0234375
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.51171875
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.75585938
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.87792969
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.93896484
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.96948242
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.98474121
>>> q=p+(q-500)*0.5; print q
1499.99237061

I do believe they have thought this through. It's quite a good idea to be fair - I've not seen this approach by any other ISP with quotas.

UPDATE: As usual, further detailed information is on Adrian's blog ( http://www.revk.uk/2017/09/quota-bonus.html ), but specifically:
The nice thing is the system is self limiting in time and amount by the nature of geometric progression. It does not need any caps or time limits. It also makes it simple when you change your monthly quota and no change in caps - the same simple rule applies.


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Edited by mixt (Thu 14-Sep-17 03:33:10)

Standard User ferretuk
(member) Thu 14-Sep-17 10:41:05
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It self limits at 2 x quota (worse case assuming no data usage at all)

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Standard User mixt
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Sep-17 10:43:35
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Correct!

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