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Standard User morsekid
(newbie) Sun 07-Aug-16 12:15:40
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AOL Desktop version 9.8.2


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Hi, does anyone use these boards? last post back in May? it is now August!
Anyway, a few days ago had a 'glitch' with my AOL software Desktop 9.8.2, when clicking on the AOL login, nothing happened, curser just 'quivered' reboot computer and router to no avail, phone call to TalkTalk and AOL did not help. Decided to uninstall and reinstall the software, discovered that although the latest version was described as Desktop 9.8.2 UK but it was very different to my existing version which was dated as 2013.......The welcome voice was American and it just said 'welcome'.... it could not be changed to Jo Lumley 'Welcome to AOL', and there was no wav audio file to change it. The email client was the same, but you couldn't save your chosen format, i.e, font type, size, script colour.... and if you used the 'scrolling marquee' facility in 'signatures' any existing ones were not transferred. 'Favourites were 'messed' up on transfer....etc. It seemed to me that this was an American version, the old UK version no longer exists, and investigations show that it was removed some time during March 2016..... I used system restore and went went back to my old version, and was very lucky to discover that I was able to login without any problems, sure hope it stays that way. On a final, I am annoyed that the AOL Google browser uses an out of date version v41 or something close, new version is 51. Cheers
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 10-Aug-16 00:23:07
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Re: AOL Desktop version 9.8.2


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Does anyone still use AOL?

Ditch it & use standard OS browsers & email clients.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Wed 10-Aug-16 10:50:30
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Re: AOL Desktop version 9.8.2


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AOL is not a supported browser any more. As such you run significant security risks using it.

The reason the forum is empty on AOL is because they're no longer an ISP over here in the UK, being sold to Talktalk.

It is strongly recommended you remove the AOL browser and move over to chrome, Firefox etc.


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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Wed 10-Aug-16 11:21:19
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Re: AOL Desktop version 9.8.2


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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
AOL is not a supported browser any more. As such you run significant security risks using it.

The reason the forum is empty on AOL is because they're no longer an ISP over here in the UK, being sold to Talktalk.

It is strongly recommended you remove the AOL browser and move over to chrome, Firefox etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if it always was a security risk, it was certainly bloat ware
Standard User morsekid
(newbie) Wed 10-Aug-16 16:05:57
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Re: AOL Desktop version 9.8.2


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Hi, many thanks for your replies, (ukhardy07, tommy5, XRaySpeX) I agree with your comments, but as TalkTalk still markets AOLbut not the Desktop 9.8.2 UK version! I will press on and try to resolve this problem. I have another computer(Win.7) connected to my router, but not networked. I have no problems in logging into AOLusing this computer,. So the problem is with this computer. Have just discovered that using system restore only works for 1/2 days then once again when clicking on AOL it refuses to open, either via the shortcut or the main AOL logo. Therefore there is nothing wrong with the software as such, (even though not many people use it) So, the problem is with my computer, I suspect a registry glitch, or a corrupt file extension.....Will advise you when (and if) I solve this problem....
Cheers.
PS..Providing of course 'AOL' still appears in the forum listings, Hi....
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 11-Aug-16 04:37:52
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There's still AOL email, still owned and operated by AOL Inc. Queries may still come into this forum on that.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Thu 11-Aug-16 07:52:58
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I actually still have AOL email. Rarely used but there are a few things such as my bank which to there.
Standard User morsekid
(learned) Thu 11-Aug-16 08:58:37
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Hi, in reply to tomy45 posting in which he states that I should use Firefox or Google Chrome as a browser, (?) AOL Desktop uses Google Chrome as their browser, probably slightly modified, and I have discovered that it is not the latest version, it is v.41 latest version being 50 something.....about a year ago they used Internet Explore....Cheers.
Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 11-Aug-16 13:14:40
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The point that everyone is trying to make to you is that there is no reason to continue using the outdated AOL browser. It will inevitably be 'behind the curve' on updates which, considering that a browser is the target of many attacks, is a risk not worth taking.

These days, there is no need for a custom browser. Choose a mainstream browser - Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari if you are using a Mac, Microsoft Edge if you are using Windows 10, Internet Explorer if you really must - then keep it up to date. Any browser that is ten versions out of date should not be used on the Internet, as it is simply not safe.


AOL is all but dead in the UK. I would be looking to access whatever you can with a mainstream up-to-date browser and, if possible, uninstall the AOL software completely. The fact that you have deliberately rolled back to an older version only increases the likelihood of security flaws. It may well be for good reason that AOL silently upgraded you to a later version.

Bearing in mind the state of AOL UK, I would think it safest to migrate away from AOL e-mail, ideally to mail in a domain you own, otherwise to a major webmail provider such as Google or Microsoft's outlook.com service. You don't want to find yourself in the same position as those Demon customers who have held on to using their demon.co.uk subdomains for e-mail, only to find that Vodafone, who have taken over Demon, are forcing them to pay a subcontractor a monthly fee to continue to use these addresses.



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Standard User morsekid
(learned) Fri 12-Aug-16 14:40:56
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Hi, Many thanks to everyone who has responded to my postings, and thanks to the last posting from David, much appreciated. However it seems that we 'lost the plot' probably my fault for not making my problem clear. Therefore will start again.
When I first switch on my computer I have to enter my password, having done that I am connected to the Internet. On my task bar I have the options to connect to the following browsers. Google Chrome...Firefox...Internet Explorer....All of which are the latest versions, except for AOL, bearing in mind that I mainly use AOL to send emails, because I prefer the layout, and yes, they were subject to a 'scam attack' but as the 'owners' TalkTalk advised me no, sensitive information, like bank accounts were compromised. So as I use the latest and safest browsers, I can see no reason to change my ISP which is of course TalkTalk. Now, the only reason I posted my problem on these boards is that it was possible that someone would have experienced the same problem as me, which started the same day that Widows 10 'free upgrade' offer expired( I use Win.7), and their 'pop up reminder' finally disappeared from my task bar, and at the same time a Windows critical update took place. This was the 1st of August.(This may have just been a coincidence) And as stated, I have to keep using system restore back to the 1st Aug to enable me to log into AOL Desktop 9.8.2, no other restore dates will work, If I create a restore date for today 12th.Aug., when everything is running fine, within 1/2 days once again I am unable to login to AOL, but can access all other browsers, restoring to my date of today does not work, only by using the restore date of the 1st Aug can I access AOL....Wow....very long blurb by me...... However, it would appear that there is no one on this AOL forum boards using AOL Desktop, so I apologise for wasting your time but thanks again for your interesting responses .
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 12-Aug-16 15:22:24
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Understand the issue, however in the end, it is not sustainable or advisable to keep doing system restore.

There are plenty of email clients which can manage the email side of things and you can move on nicely.

I understand old habits die hard, but sometimes, it is time for a change - now is that time smile
Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 16-Aug-16 18:37:39
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Understand the issue, however in the end, it is not sustainable or advisable to keep doing system restore.

Indeed. You need to keep moving forward with security updates for the operating system, also the time will come where the restore point in question disappears.

You really only seem to have two options. Either you find an installer for your preferred version of AOL, which you install in a virtual machine that you only use for e-mail, or concede that you have to give in to the latest version of AOL. You can't hang on to an old system forever.


I used to be a huge fan of Demon's Turnpike e-mail system. It got to the "almost brilliant" stage before development got canned with IMAP server implemented and IMAP client under development. I was one of the beta testers.

Demon felt that they could not justify the resources to continue developing Turnpike and the use of commercially licensed components with no obvious replacements lead to the decision that the code base was unsuitable for open sourcing. I persevered with Turnpike some time into the Windows 7 generation, running Turnpike under Windows XP Mode as it wouldn't run on a 64 bit OS and, if I remember correctly, would not run on any OS later than Vista. Eventually, the OS limitations, together with the limitations of the flat file database and the 4GB limit for the mail database proved too much. I moved over to a hosted IMAP solution, using Turnpike's IMAP server to export my existing mail. As I use my own domain for e-mail, it's up to me whether to stick with the existing hosting provider, move to another hosting provider, or run my own mail server.

There comes a point where you have to move on from a comfortable but obsolete solution.



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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Aug-16 13:28:54
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There is no reason not to continue using AOL email. You can use it over POP3 from any email client w/out needing AOL desktop.

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Standard User morsekid
(learned) Fri 19-Aug-16 07:42:55
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Hi XRaySpecX....thanks for that info, in fact I have tried the 'stand alone' version of AOL email, but I much prefer the AOL Desktop email client, I enjoy the many extras such as the scrolling marquee facility in 'signatures'.....But thanks for taking the trouble to advise me of this possibility.....By the way, I downloaded the TalkTalk/AOL latest version of Desktop 9.8.2 which is almost identical to the original except that it has an american voice for greeting and emails, about 2-days later I received a pop up from AOL stating that an update was available, there was no way to cancel it, it took over 1/2 hour to download, I then had to re-install screen names, etc., and toolbar favourites, and to my amazement I am now back with the original 9.8.2 software complete with Joanna Lumley voice.... This the 3rd day that I have been able to login, what other ISP gives you all this excitement lol....
Standard User 23Prince
(newbie) Fri 02-Sep-16 13:33:29
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Gees I miss AOL it was the best time of my online life. Shame it had to go the way it did frown

Honestly, It was awesome.
Standard User morsekid
(learned) Fri 02-Sep-16 16:09:06
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Hi 23Prince....Well, I am still enjoying it......didn't think it would last after all my recent problems, but so far so good.....
Standard User 23Prince
(learned) Sat 03-Sep-16 14:47:49
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Hi 23Prince....Well, I am still enjoying it......didn't think it would last after all my recent problems, but so far so good.....


You are enjoying the desktop but it's not the desktop I used to know - 90% of it has gone.
Standard User morsekid
(learned) Sun 04-Sep-16 10:53:52
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I used to have Compuserve as my ISP until it was taken over by AOL, and have been using all the versions up to and including Desktop 9.8.2 which in my opinion is the best version, it has all 'the bells and whistles' and as you may be aware it is no longer available to new users via TalkTalk.... So what was the version of AOL you refer to have that the latest version doesn't have?
Standard User 23Prince
(learned) Sun 04-Sep-16 12:52:43
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In reply to a post by morsekid:
I used to have Compuserve as my ISP until it was taken over by AOL, and have been using all the versions up to and including Desktop 9.8.2 which in my opinion is the best version, it has all 'the bells and whistles' and as you may be aware it is no longer available to new users via TalkTalk.... So what was the version of AOL you refer to have that the latest version doesn't have?


I remember Compuserve, They were based in Bristol and I spent a week there when I was training to be a volunteer.

I was referring to AOL as it used to be, 0845 dialup days were the best, Then the kids jumped on when we tested and launched 0800 - and then ADSL came along. Because of 2 douchebags who whinged they were not being paid to volunteer out of not needing the hassle anymore the volunteer program was shut down - the chat rooms became unmonitored and after an event in the Kids rooms between a 9yr old and a nasty adult shall we say all the chat rooms were shut down.

The AOL I remember was al chatting to people online and then meeting up at Hotels and venues for massive booze fuelled partys. Oh those were my 20's sorted smile

Going back to the software. I only used it when I had to, any other time I just connected without it and used whatever browser was best at the time.
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