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Standard User fishpan
(regular) Fri 02-Jun-17 18:43:14
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How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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Newly migrated to Sky today and immediately got about setting up a new BQM for the connection. Now when I set up a IPv4 BQM it works fine and I can see the pings coming through. When I set up a IPv6 BQM, its 100% packet loss (red block).

Sky Q Hub atm is my modem and router. WAN ping for both v4 and v6 are enabled. Firewall is on default. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the long IPv6 address but since I am new to it, I am not sure which part I need to put in to make the IPv6 BQM work.

I'm sure there's a simple solution somewhere. Thanks

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 02-Jun-17 19:08:11
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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Is the IPv6 address the one for the router or the PC?

As for which part, the full IP address

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Standard User fishpan
(regular) Fri 02-Jun-17 19:11:26
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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I believe I've used the one for the PC. When I use whatismyip.com for another device connected to router, it gives a different end to the IP address.

Would the router have a shorter IP address than my PC? Or same length? If I know this, then I can use power of deduction to sift through the convoluted Sky hub's interface and get the right address to put into the BQM.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 02-Jun-17 19:31:45
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/tools/what-is-my-ip should reveal what is the IPv6 address for the Internet side of things.

The PC IPv6 address will be firewalled, i.e. to avoid your PC being straight onto the Internet and open to all the nasties

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Standard User fishpan
(regular) Fri 02-Jun-17 19:35:50
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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Hmm, when I access that page from my PC I get a different IP than if I accessed the page from my phone. The first half is identical however...

If it helps the sky Q hub is set to give all lan devices their own unique ipv6 address (default setting)

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 02-Jun-17 20:01:46
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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Mine works like fishpan's Andrew. The thinkbroadband checker, and a "New BQM" setup see the external IPv6 of the device.

However AAISP do tell me the modem/router address they assign. So I just correct it during BQM setup.

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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 02-Jun-17 21:25:29
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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Run a speed test and make sure it sees you as IPv6, then share the results link, I'll figure it out and private message you the IP

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Standard User fishpan
(regular) Fri 02-Jun-17 22:25:30
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

Thanks

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 03-Jun-17 13:11:34
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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any such test will report the ip of the device e.g. phone or PC.

Some routers dont even assign themselves an ipv6 address, so its possible the sky hub works like this, but if it does assign itself an address,, then maybe you can get it by logging into the hub and looking at informational pages.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 03-Jun-17 13:58:38
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
Some routers dont even assign themselves an ipv6 address, so its possible the sky hub works like this,
Do you mean if it is set up as IPv4-only? I don't know of any SOHO routers that don't have a WAN address.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 03-Jun-17 23:50:42
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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similar to your aaisp issue where the router had the prefix to assign to lan devices but didnt give itself a wan ipv6.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 04-Jun-17 02:42:38
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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That depends what you are actually saying. I'm no expert on IPv6.

AAISP DHCP allocates a static IPv6 WAN address to the router, 2001:8b0:xxxx:xxxx:n:n:n:n where the xxxx:xxxx is not passed through and the n:n:n:n is the hex equivalent of the IPv4 static IP address.

We have a different IPv6 /48 block allocated to our account, but by default are only issued with a single /64 from it. We can add further /64s if we wish. At this point I cease to understand what is going on, as my LAN addresses appear to be from the /48, not the /64.

When I first got BQM going on IPv6 I was using the IPv6 address I see for my wifi adapter LOL! As shown in ipconfig/all. That is what thinkbroadband pick up even now. I alter it for BQM to the above static WAN address for the router. Otherwise BQM would fail when I turn the computer off.

Does that make sense?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Standard User fishpan
(regular) Sun 04-Jun-17 17:57:33
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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PM received and put this new IP in and seems to be working - base ping matches up with my IPv4 monitor.

Prefix is the same as the one autocompleted when setting up a BQM but a different suffix needed it looks like to ping the router.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 05-Jun-17 00:31:40
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Re: How to get BQM working on IPv6?


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I've just read the OP's post saying your PM'ed IP address is working.

I had been rather puzzled when you asked for that speed test so you could "work it out".

When I read the post saying it worked I suddenly realised how you did it. Or at least how I think you did it. /me dumb!

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
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