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Standard User bri2366
(regular) Fri 15-Jun-12 20:54:54
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Lag spikes gaming


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Hi there guys, need some help here, I have been of late getting bad lag spikes playing Black ops, I know where the problem is, but I am not sure who is liable for it, the host is gameservers using 3rd party level 3 for routing I think, so who do I complain to here? should it be my isp or should it be the game host, here is a traceroute to the server I play on, as you can see everything is fine until it get to hop 11


Tracing route to 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 50 ms 99 ms 99 ms BThomehub.home [192.168.1.254]
2 33 ms 32 ms 31 ms 217.47.211.58
3 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms 217.32.95.145
4 38 ms 37 ms 36 ms 213.1.69.74
5 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms 31.55.165.39
6 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 31.55.165.107
7 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms acc1-10GigE-1-2-0.mr.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.250.70]
8 46 ms 46 ms 44 ms core1-te0-12-0-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.250.22]
9 43 ms 51 ms 42 ms transit2-xe1-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.134]
10 43 ms 44 ms 43 ms t2c4-xe-10-2-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.41]
11 94 ms 93 ms 93 ms xe-8-0-0.edge4.London2.Level3.net [212.187.192.61]
12 90 ms 89 ms 90 ms ae-3-3.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.141.189]
13 92 ms 96 ms 100 ms ae-59-114.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.153.126]
14 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms ae-1-51.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.74]
15 44 ms 45 ms 44 ms 195.50.122.154
16 80 ms 79 ms 81 ms 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
Standard User JonasTone
(learned) Fri 15-Jun-12 22:32:57
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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your pinging to the home hub at 50-100ms to the home hub??? that really isn't gonna help.

do you have a tbb monitor set up?? you are obviously having routing issues. but the ping of 50.100 to the home hub is sign to me that there are issues with router, cable or NIC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Jun-12 22:51:14
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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In reply to a post by bri2366:
1 50 ms 99 ms 99 ms BThomehub.home [192.168.1.254]
There's your problem, over 50 ms just to your router; should be < 1 ms.

You must be connected by wireless. Connect by Ethernet.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC


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Standard User bri2366
(regular) Fri 15-Jun-12 23:02:04
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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thanks for the response guys, that isnt a problem the home hub 2 ping, its a known issue with this router, if I ping my rouuter directly I get 1ms, this is an issue with the thomson router within the home hub 2, its not actually reporting the true ping
anyone that does a traceroute with the home hub 2 will see a simalar or the same ping at the router
Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 16-Jun-12 01:09:30
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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Simply low priority to ICMP

Be* Unlimited
Standard User bri2366
(regular) Sat 16-Jun-12 10:34:44
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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Hi there nredwood, thanks for the reply, what does that actually mean?
Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 16-Jun-12 19:03:59
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Here is mine from Infinity in N.ireland... only a difference of 13-15ms from 1st hop to last... yours is very high...


Tracing route to 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
2 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms 217.32.142.100
3 14 ms 11 ms 12 ms 217.32.142.142
4 19 ms 19 ms 20 ms 213.120.163.98
5 20 ms 22 ms 19 ms 31.55.165.65
6 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms 31.55.165.107
7 18 ms 18 ms 20 ms acc1-10GigE-7-3-0.mr.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.25
0.98]
8 25 ms 31 ms 32 ms core1-te0-12-0-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
50.22]
9 22 ms 23 ms 26 ms transit2-xe3-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.
181]
10 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms t2c4-xe-9-0-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.49]
11 23 ms 24 ms 25 ms xe-8-0-0.edge4.London2.Level3.net [212.187.192.6
1]
12 24 ms 23 ms 26 ms ae-3-3.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.141.189]
13 25 ms 23 ms 23 ms ae-58-113.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.153.122]

14 27 ms 24 ms 54 ms ae-1-51.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.74]
15 24 ms 32 ms 25 ms 195.50.122.154
16 24 ms 28 ms 25 ms 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]

Trace complete.


Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Jun-12 03:45:45
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Re: Lag spikes gaming - EDITED


[re: bri2366] [link to this post]
 
& here's mine on Orange WBC ADSL2+:

Tracing route to 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms OrangeRouter [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 213.1.112.200
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 213.1.117.45
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 213.1.67.230
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 213.1.78.252
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 213.1.79.22
7 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 87.237.20.240
8 20 ms 11 ms 11 ms bundle-ether1.lontr1.London.opentransit.net [193.251.255.101]
9 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms level3-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.150.70]
10 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms vl-3503-ve-117.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.137]
11 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms ae-1-51.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.74]
12 18 ms 19 ms 38 ms 195.50.122.154
13 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]

Trace complete.
Shows what's possible! You are losing a lot just getting to your ISP's network.

EDIT: Admittedly this is Fast Path.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 17-Jun-12 12:57:01)

Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Jun-12 07:27:08
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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How curious,

just thought I'd try a quick tracert myself, just out of morbid interest. I appear to be hosting, no wonder this old lappy runs slow ! smile

C:\Users\>****** tracert 173.199.77.68

Tracing route to 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]

Trace complete.

Any one got any ideas why the tracert prompt no longer responds correctly ? (I would also appear to be one hop from the BBC, TBB, google ........ ????

Standard User StephenTodd
(member) Sun 17-Jun-12 08:47:05
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Re: Lag spikes gaming


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From BE, interleaving on. Would probably be around 11/12 with interleaving off. I'm moving to Infinity in just over a week: it will be interesting to see how it changes.

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c:\windows\system32>tracert 173.199.77.68
 Tracing route to 173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops: 
  1    86 ms    99 ms    99 ms  192.168.1.254  2    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  87-194-228-1.bethere.co.uk [87.194.228.1]
  3    21 ms    20 ms    19 ms  10.1.3.178  4    20 ms    21 ms    19 ms  10.1.4.241
  5    19 ms    20 ms    19 ms  O2-UK-4-0-8-0-GRTLONTL1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [94.142.103.133]  6    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  176.52.250.85
  7    19 ms    20 ms    19 ms  xe-10-0-0.edge4.London1.Level3.net [212.187.160.225]  8    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  195.50.122.154
  9    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  173.199.77.68.choopa.net [173.199.77.68]


Happy BE user for several years: but moving to BT Infinity 2 for upload speed.
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