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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 19:13:44
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Re: App/Web Stream no contract changes


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
To me that doesn't make sense as if "DTT customers will need a conditional access card" means BT Vision, they already know you're a BT customer and a card wouldn't be needed, would it?


Unless they have taken over ESPN's slots on TopUpTV, in which case maybe the card is actually a TopUpTV card, that can go into many Freeview TVs, and doesn't require a BT Vision or YouView box?

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Standard User professor973
(committed) Fri 10-May-13 19:58:19
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
"Customers can watch BT Sport at home with a minimum line speed of 400kbps" - So I would say pretty poor in standard trim. Faster Fibre service is 50% dearer at £15pm with a £3pm HD movie pack. The offer is only open until 1st of August, After the 12 months tie-in the £10 package increases to £13, plus the usual activation fee, so probably a few stings in the tail up the road.

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Standard User Rebeldiamond
(learned) Fri 10-May-13 20:08:22
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
The streaming will use MS Silverlight


ouch.

Whats atracting commercial media companies to that mess silverlight isnt even developed anymore microsoft have killed it, yet netflix, bt and sky all using it.

But still my question, will the pc streaming be some hashed down low bitrate stream or will it be full hd.


I've had Netflix for a year now watching on 50" panasonic and via PC and i have to say the picture quality is absolutely spot on, i honestly don't see your issue with it?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 10-May-13 22:32:21
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: professor973] [link to this post]
 
So do people actually believe that the stream will be a maximum of 400 Kbps on the web app streams?

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Standard User professor973
(committed) Fri 10-May-13 22:41:21
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


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According to the small print under a big BT ad for the service in the Express today, that is all you need to watch. Like most introductory offers, it does not mention applying to unlimited call & bb packages.
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Edited by professor973 (Fri 10-May-13 22:55:40)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 10-May-13 23:08:59
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: professor973] [link to this post]
 
It says minimum line speed, which means the lowest bit rate they are planning to service is 400 Kbps, It DOES NOT tell you the highest bit rate that they will serve via the service.

Mutliple bit rate streams are nothing new, and Silverlight supports that sort of thing.

On the unlimited, are you suggesting that you believe that unlmited BB customers will NOT have access to the BT Sport app and web site streaming?

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User professor973
(committed) Fri 10-May-13 23:14:00
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I have already posted reference to the HD quality stream which is 50% more expensive, so did not think 400kbps the be all and end all. As for the Unlimited. Every reference I have seen applies to the limited BB option with charges for extra use. NO reference to free for unlimited use.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 10-May-13 23:39:56
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: professor973] [link to this post]
 
So web streams limited to 400 Kbps and free access not available to Unlimited broadband users?

Also how is the HD stream 50% more expensive? SD package for non BT customers is £12, for HD its £15.

For BT customers it is free for SD or £3 for HD.

SD streaming if jsut 400 Kbps would make BT a laughing stiock and would be well under the quality levels of other SD sources.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User professor973
(committed) Fri 10-May-13 23:47:50
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


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Fibre stream is £15 or £10 for copper. It is so confusing it could easily been written by Plusnet. I visited the sign up page, which does not actually tell you sport is free till you click it as an add on. It is the same with their phone now, no option 3. Anytime is just an add-on to the lesser packages, so they are what is usually referred to which confuses matters. Also, it is only free on tV if you already own a Sky, Youview or vision box, which can make it somewhat more expensive, though I don't know why I am worried, becausea s I said, I'll be sticking to Vipbox for free which does more than all the systems put together.

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Edited by professor973 (Sat 11-May-13 00:02:42)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 10-May-13 23:52:16
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Re: BT Sport free to Infinity customers


[re: professor973] [link to this post]
 
So the banner saying "Got BT Broadband? Enjoy the BT Sport app and online player FREE" in a big font is not visible when you are on the broadband package pages?

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broad...

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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