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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Mon 31-Oct-11 16:37:33
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BT fibre broadband cable UK rollout accelerated


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15518887

Telecoms provider BT is accelerating its fibre broadband rollout. It now plans to offer "super-fast" internet speeds to two-thirds of UK premises by the end of 2014.

The target is a year ahead of its original plan.



(Deleted the one Gen BB chat, as it seems more appropriate here.)

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User RandomJointer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 31-Oct-11 21:17:57
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Re: BT fibre broadband cable UK rollout accelerated


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My money is on 2/3rds far quicker than 2014.

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-Nov-11 09:30:10
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Any thoughts on those exchanges with no planned FTTx date published?


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Standard User epyon
(member) Tue 01-Nov-11 09:33:13
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Re: BT fibre broadband cable UK rollout accelerated


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More than likely

they will be done late 2013 or after.

BE*Unlimited 15713/1321Kbps
My Broadband Speed Test

Edited by epyon (Tue 01-Nov-11 09:33:26)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 01-Nov-11 09:49:11
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Re: BT fibre broadband cable UK rollout accelerated


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If its a market 3 exchange then its a case of sit and wait generally

It is just like back in 2003/2004 when areas did not know about enablement dates for basic ADSL service

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 01-Nov-11 10:35:42
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If its a market 3 exchange then its a case of sit and wait generally

It is just like back in 2003/2004 when areas did not know about enablement dates for basic ADSL service


Market 3 here. Same situation. I'm using samknows only though. Got any links to 21CN / FTTx lists please?


Edit: Market 3, not 1. I keep confusing the numbers. Market 1 should be better, but it's not.

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”

Edited by camieabz (Tue 01-Nov-11 11:43:15)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 01-Nov-11 10:38:10
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Re: BT fibre broadband cable UK rollout accelerated


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https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefi...

Not the latest, but links to microsite that is best source for latest info, i.e. from horses mouth

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-Nov-11 11:36:28
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If its a market 3 exchange...
I wish! Ye Olde Market 1 frown
Each packet carved in stone...

Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 01-Nov-11 11:41:53
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Rather poor lists if that's what's coming to Scotland (I didn't peek at Wales, but did notice Northern Ireland have plenty on one list):

Accepting orders: 18 / 634 (2.84%)

Coming Soon: 14 / 314 (4.46%)

Future Exchanges: 9 / 349 (2.58%)

Assuming there's no overlap on the lists, that's 41 / 1297 (3.16%)


Using:

http://www.ruralgateway.org.uk/sites/default/files/R...

6.47% of Scotland's population are 'remote-rural'.
11.94% are 'accessible-rural'.

The remainder of 81.59% are presumed non-rural. Weighing this into account, with the population 8.38% of the UK, 6.84% of the exchanges 'ought' to be listed. The rural aspect is not part of the equation imo.

6.84% vs 3.16%


In other words, Scotland's 'share of the pie' is less than half (46.2%) what it should be. If we also take into account the remote, rural areas (areas which would benefit massively from reasonable broadband) the figure is closer to a third (37.7%).

I find it strange that the very communities which would benefit the most from broadband are the ones being sidelined. Do the residents in the centres of large urban areas need to shop online, require online banking or online utility payments? Given that there are more 'walk-in' facilities in urban areas, the rural communities could do far better with faster broadband.

By the way, I'm not suggesting that every highland hamlet should have FTTH. 4 Meg would be fantastic. We seem to have an increasing series of broadband tiers. Superfast, fast, reasonable, slow, pathetic, none. While it's fair that business can drive urban broadband infrastructure, and rural areas can't get the same business investment, can't the monies from businesses across the country be more evenly divided?

If there's little or no chance of progress, there will be little demand. If however, it's possible, more people will demand progress. IMO the wholesalers are painting the picture as impossible in certain areas, and people there are forced to accept it (look at the sparse rollout of ADSL2+, versus the potential benefits and reasonable cost).

I don't expect the smaller countries to have more exchanges, but I do expect the percentages to be broadly in line with urban population demographics at least. Those numbers are quite depressing.

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User Oldjim
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 01-Nov-11 12:28:40
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But not necessarily all post codes within the exchange as I found out on Wimborne which is Market 3 where there are large swathes of the rural areas on that exchange currently excluded from the plans
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