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Standard User richi
(newbie) Mon 25-Mar-13 13:03:06
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20CN Max Premium: 6500 BRAS limit?


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Anyone know whether this is true? Or is it another one of those "Max Myths"?

I'm told that people on Max Premium, with the double-speed uplink, are limited to a BRAS IP profile of 6500, even if their downlink syncs at the full 8128Kbps. In other words, if you start off with a 7150 profile and then upgrade to Premium, your profile will drop to 6500, even with enough sync speed to maintain the old profile. Can that be right?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 25-Mar-13 13:31:21
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Less a myth more a plain lie

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Standard User Rroff
(knowledge is power) Mon 25-Mar-13 14:04:04
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If anyones limited to 6500 it sounds like they are on a banded profile for some reason.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 25-Mar-13 16:00:28
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Re: 20CN Max Premium: 6500 BRAS limit?


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ADSL Max doesn't have banded profiles. It has this IP Profiling.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 25-Mar-13 16:02:30
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I wonder if the ISP concerned automatically applies downstream interleaving on Max Premium, for some reason, and normally then sees a 7616kbps sync?

That could easily get garbled into what the OP has been told.

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Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 25-Mar-13 17:02:15
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I remember those Yorkshiremen over at Plusnet told me on several occasions, a year or so back, that if I had the upstream uncapped on ADSL MAX I would probably loose a touch of downstream sync - actually it didn't happen but I guess it could on some lines? My downstream attenuation was 35dB, sync 8064K, 9dB SNRM, interleaved and remained so after the upstream was uncapped at 832K.
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(staff) Mon 25-Mar-13 17:04:44
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It is possible, but I'd err towards someone thinking more upstream speed means slower downstream speeds, i.e. they are applying the theory of Annex M to ADSL standard. The classic a little knowledge being dangerous scenario.

In the past had spent a long time explaining to some broadband campaigners that faster than 448 Kbps uploads are available on most ADSL lines in the country

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Standard User richi
(newbie) Mon 25-Mar-13 19:02:17
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Thanks.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 25-Mar-13 20:39:48
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if I had the upstream uncapped on ADSL MAX I would probably loose a touch of downstream sync
as they use separate frequencies and all of the relevant and adjacent frequencies would be in use at either 448 or 832k upstream I see no reason why this would happen - probably why it didn't !

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Standard User richi
(newbie) Tue 26-Mar-13 16:26:45
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Indeed so. Stuck profile has now been freed and is now at 7150. Thanks for all the advice.
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