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Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Wed 10-Apr-13 14:09:09
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To all those that bang on about a pure FTTH network...


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Take note of what's happened in Australia.

Way too ambitious project to give 93% FTTH, results so far = massively behind schedule, probably will go over budget, copper/coax ripped up to make it more economical (but less competition).

So that's probably going to get cancelled now and they might get a FTTC network by 2019!

Compare that to the UK, where already 50% of the country can get FTTC with the next 40% coming in the next 2 or 3 years, with FTTPoD for anyone that really wants FTTH.

As Andrew rightly points out, the potential of GFast to give ~1gig speeds over copper is still there too.

BT definitely made the right choice.
Standard User driz
(regular) Mon 15-Apr-13 17:30:46
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Re: To all those that bang on about a pure FTTH network...


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This totally misrepresents the situation in Australia.

The opposition have proposed a FTTN solution. They still need to win government.
Standard User Crusiux
(learned) Mon 15-Apr-13 20:24:22
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Re: To all those that bang on about a pure FTTH network...


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Yes, I agree. FTTC is currently the answer and I would argue more cost effective. A pure FTTH network is still the end goal in my opinion but FTTC is a bridge to reach it that BT have been able to deploy quickly and reach a greater amount of people with. FTTPoD is a clever way to move forward; BT can provide FTTP to those who need/want it while also expanding their FTTP network footprint to neighbouring premises at the same time. Perhaps by the time BT come to deploy FTTP en mass, a lot of properties will already have been connected though this is speculation on my part. In regards to Australia, it is important that we take in mind the sheer size of the place and the spread of properties compared to Britain which is relatively compact by comparison making a roll out of FTTX easier by comparison.

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-13 23:23:24
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Wrong forum!


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Why isn't this topic in the Fibre Broadband forum? Surely there would be more people interested in it in there?

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Standard User greenglide
(experienced) Tue 16-Apr-13 09:43:14
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Re: To all those that bang on about a pure FTTH network...


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But the UK and Australia are very different places.

Australia with a smaller population over a hugely larger area has considerably larger number of CABs so the comparison cannot easily be made between "our" FTTC and their FTTP.

The comparatively small difference between the FTTC and FTTP proposals for Australia could be down to smaller number of lines per CAB, hugely larger fibre runs etc.

Chalk and cheese doesn't add up!

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 16-Apr-13 09:53:13
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Re: To all those that bang on about a pure FTTH network...


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http://alldownunder.com/australian-facts/population-...
A quarter of the population live in Sydney alone

Majority of population is on the cost and even with the old FTTH plan, a good 7% of the harder to reach were only going to get fixed wireless or satellite option.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5682-uk-beating-a...

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 16-Apr-13 13:57:52
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Re: Wrong forum!


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This topic is not even related to BT Wholesale; more like Oz Telecoms Outback.

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