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Standard User stanchel
(newbie) Sun 15-Jul-18 08:03:19
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Not acheiving USO levels


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Does anyone know what Openreach intend to do for those whose connection speed falls below the future Universal Service Obligation of 10mbs download/ 1mb upload? I only get about half that. No, I do not live in a remote island in the Outer Hebrides, merely 35 miles from Cambridge, the Technology Hub of the UK, in a village of 1000 souls.
I have heard so much about the USO, but not one thing about what will be done to fix those that are below it. A local Openreach engineer told me that they were actively rolling out FTTP for those who complained loud enough. Every time I ask about it I am told my local exchange does not provide it. The USO is due to become law in 2020, I do not know on what date.
in my area it seems Openreach are not doing anything, possible as the fibre rollout was funded by extra government funding through ConnectingCambridgeshire. Their obligation seemed to be have been to ensure connections were a minimum of 2mbs and now, I guess, their job is done.
I had better internet speed than this in rural areas of Sri Lanka, presumably what Openreach would call a Third World country...
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 15-Jul-18 08:20:07
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Re: Not acheiving USO levels


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Why are you asking this in the BT Wholesale section of this forum ?

Have you asked Virgin to fibre your village ? Or Gigaclear or Hyperoptic ?

What about raising funds locally for a community funded fibre project ?

The solutions are out there, but take effort, and sometimes cold hard cash.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 15-Jul-18 10:07:39
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Re: Not acheiving USO levels


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How USO will work has not been fully defined, needs Ofcom to say how it will work...

Which village is it?

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Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Sun 15-Jul-18 13:32:56
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Re: Not acheiving USO levels


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The devil is in the detail, all of which has not been decided upon.
For instance it will be demand lead. That means you will need to request action to be taken , don't expect it just be delivered out the blue.
Also there will be a cost limit per premise, with users required to pay any additional cost above the threshold. However multiple home owners/occupiers can group together to increase the fund available.
Much is yet undecided and a lot will depend on local and individual circumstances.

Edited by witchunt (Sun 15-Jul-18 13:42:31)

Standard User MCM
(knowledge is power) Sun 15-Jul-18 13:59:31
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The USO has little or nothing as such to do with BT Openreach but rather with Ofcom. Once agreed and in law we will know which providers are prepared to undertake USO work.

If you want Openreach to do something now you need to consider a Community Partnership and put your collective hands in your pockets and contribute towards the cost as others including myself have done.
Standard User stanchel
(newbie) Mon 16-Jul-18 06:51:17
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Oh! sorry, I assumed this was the correct forum for Openreach, which forum should I use?


I asked Virgin 4 years ago, still hoping...

That may not be successful as I believe the demographic is a large proportion of pensioners on government pensions.

Fine, hard cash can buy anything, but what does "Universal Service Obligation" actually mean - surely not if you have cash we can provide, that is "offer and acceptance", hardly the same..
Standard User stanchel
(newbie) Mon 16-Jul-18 06:56:14
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Murrow, near Wisbech
The village now has FTTC, however there is only the one cabinet to cover quite a large area ~ 2 mile radius..

My house is ~ 1 mile from the cabinet.

If USO has not even been defined there seems to be no chance that Openreach are going to be geared up in time to supply it.
Standard User stanchel
(newbie) Mon 16-Jul-18 07:15:05
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Thank you for your reply.

I cannot see why "obligation" is used when it seems to be an offer of provision if you are prepared to pay. I guess I am thinking that "obligation" defines it so it more like say how the National Health medicine prescriptions works. You pay the national charge for your prescription, not necessarily the cost of the medication.

I am not after something for nothing. I currently pay the national charge for VDSL2 which for most people is somewhere around 76mbs, I can achieve 10mbs on a good day, on ADSL2 it is only max of 6mbs. Currently there is nothing else available.
I presume USO is part of the move to raise the national minimum speed so we do not fall behind the rest of the world. I am wondering if I, and others like me, are going to see an improvement when USO kicks in and what that improvement could be...
Standard User MCM
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Jul-18 09:06:09
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If USO has not even been defined there seems to be no chance that Openreach are going to be geared up in time to supply it.
USO once implemented is going involve more than just Openreach, other providers are likely to come in to play such as Gigaclear and the various WISPs. Openreach may even choose not to be involved having had their earlier offer turned down. Unlikely but still a possibility until everything has been agreed and the funding arrangements known.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 16-Jul-18 09:46:08
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Have a read of this.

Ofcom are consulting and requesting expressions of interesting for which ISPs would be interested in providing USO. Any ISP could potentially apply - USO does not automatically mean BT or any of it's subsidiaries.
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