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Standard User Bobby_Valentino
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 31-Jan-10 14:46:08
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VDSL2 Routers/Modems


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Has anyone seen any VDSL2/ITU G.993.2 Modem/Routers on the market in the UK?

Also, is VDSL2 firmware upgradable or is it a physical chipset requirement?

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 31-Jan-10 21:38:00
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With FTTC Openreach provide the VDSL2 modem and you just need to buy a cable/DSL router to share the connection i.e. routers like people use on Virgin media cable services

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Standard User Bobby_Valentino
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 31-Jan-10 23:06:27
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It would be better to have the VDSL2 modem integrated within the router saving electricity and space for a seperate box, just like how ADSL/ADSL2+ routers work at the moment.


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Standard User Ignitionnet
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 31-Jan-10 23:32:33
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In reply to a post by Bobby_Valentino:
It would be better to have the VDSL2 modem integrated within the router saving electricity and space for a seperate box, just like how ADSL/ADSL2+ routers work at the moment.


Just like with the early ADSL installs it'll be an engineer installed face plate and modem. There are plans further down the line to both integrate the modem into the face plate and to allow service providers to use their own CPE.

It's not much different from cable networks and is as much as anything else to enable Openreach to standardise FTTC and FTTP delivered Generic Ethernet Access services.

It's on the radar to bring in wires only at some point, I imagine they'll want some more data first though.

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Standard User jchamier
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 31-Jan-10 23:59:00
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With FTTC Openreach provide the VDSL2 modem and you just need to buy a cable/DSL router to share the connection i.e. routers like people use on Virgin media cable services


Just like DSL in many other countries. As long as its a pure modem, nobody minds - its when the telco/ISP/cableco get 'clever' and put NAT into the modems... arrrrghhh.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 28-Nov-10 15:12:11
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Fritz!box 7390. However, when I replaced my Openreach Modem with it, while it synced, I got no Internet.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 29-Nov-10 11:12:16
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I got no Internet

was the Fritzbox doing the PPPoE login ?

Phil

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Standard User MJEdmunds
(newbie) Thu 10-Feb-11 14:56:16
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WARNING
Testing a non Openreach VDSL2 modem on FTTC could interrupt your connection.

New 84.04.88 firmware for FRITZ!Box 7390 prompted an unauthorised test, which triggered an immediate lockout of internet browsing.
When connected as a VDSL2 modem, the 7390 reported:
- training - connecting- DSL synchronised.
DSL version 1.68.16.14 DSL enabled VDSL2 Annex A
The connection was stable but login failed - PPPoE Timeout.
End of test.
Re-connected as before - 7390 as cable router though the Openreach FTTC Huawei HG612 VDSL Modem - the 7390 logged in successfully and received IP and DNS addresses but browsing failed.
Web sites were throttled to a very very slow trickle so that no site got beyond a blank screen and 'loading'.
The lockout was fiendishly selective.
PING worked everywhere with normal latency.
SIP registration was successful.
Astonishingly VoIP calls worked perfectly - just as well - it could have got expensive.
Two long VoIP calls to the ISP and 16 hours later everything was back to normal.

Conclusion: a robot somewhere monitors unauthorised activity and puts you on a carefully designed naughty-step.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 10-Feb-11 18:41:30
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Or the DLM just went loopy

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www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User maniac886
(member) Thu 10-Feb-11 18:48:37
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In reply to a post by Bobby_Valentino:
Has anyone seen any VDSL2/ITU G.993.2 Modem/Routers on the market in the UK?

Also, is VDSL2 firmware upgradable or is it a physical chipset requirement?


Have a look at my thread here.
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