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Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Fri 21-Jan-11 18:11:13
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Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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Got bored with my Netgear DGND3300 so decided to try the Billion 7800N as it gets raving reviews everywhere. Oh boy, what a brilliant router! It uses the same chipset as the DGND3300 (Broadcom 6358) so you are guaranteed a rock solid connection. However its wireless coverage is even better than the Netgear's. Easily the best router on the market for wireless coverage. Like the Netgear the SNR on the 7800N can be lowered to increase the sync speed (on 1.06a and above), however unlike the Netgear, the effect is permanent so even if you reboot the router your SNR stays at the new low value. Its also a cable/FTTC router so future proof. It really is a top top class router and worth every penny for all its features. Only problem is that it looks ugly frown

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Fri 21-Jan-11 18:15:19
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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to all those that have the Billion 7800N this is the procedure to alter the SNR:

go to http://192.168.1.254/snr.cgi
and enter one of the values below and save.

standard values are.
200 = +6dB
150 = +3dB
100 = +0dB
50 = -3dB
25 = -4.5db
1 = -5.5dB

The command does not accept negative numbers. However the command can be tricked into accepting negative numbers by entering high positive numbers.

65500 = -9dB
65480 = -9.5dB
65450 = -12dB

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Fri 21-Jan-11 19:35:46
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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Can the WAN connection be used to combine two broadband services - does the router support load balancing?



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Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Fri 21-Jan-11 19:46:40
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Can the WAN connection be used to combine two broadband services - does the router support load balancing?


No, the router only supports 1 type of broadband service at any one time. I don't think the router allows load balancing but i might be wrong on this.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 21-Jan-11 22:45:07
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DrayTek .....the SENSEI of routers


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Looks a better offering to me!

Dr Dark
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Fri 21-Jan-11 23:38:46
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Re: DrayTek .....the SENSEI of routers


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Looks a better offering to me!

Dr Dark
No, Draytek are overpriced garbage.



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Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Sat 22-Jan-11 07:36:42
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Re: DrayTek .....the SENSEI of routers


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Looks a better offering to me!

Dr Dark


Errr you will find the Draytek 2820 uses an Infineon chipset (poor compare to a Broadcom chip) and it doesn't allow the user to tweak the SNR. Also draytek routers often have lots and lots of bugs in their firmware...granted ALL routers have bugs, but Draytek models seem to have too many. And finally there's me thinking that Billion routers were expensive...

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Standard User Tacitus
(experienced) Sat 22-Jan-11 07:47:22
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
to all those that have the Billion 7800N this is the procedure to alter the SNR:
...... [SNIP] ....... The command does not accept negative numbers. However the command can be tricked into accepting negative numbers by entering high positive numbers.
65500 = -9dB
65480 = -9.5dB
65450 = -12dB
So what would I enter if I wanted to reduce target SNR by 3dB or 6dB? EG from 15 to either 12 or 9dB. Or will the figures you quote, actually set the target SNR to 9/9.5/12dB? In my case I would aim to set the target SNR from its current 15dB to 12dB or 9dB.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Sat 22-Jan-11 09:32:36
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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In reply to a post by Tacitus:
In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
to all those that have the Billion 7800N this is the procedure to alter the SNR:
...... [SNIP] ....... The command does not accept negative numbers. However the command can be tricked into accepting negative numbers by entering high positive numbers.
65500 = -9dB
65480 = -9.5dB
65450 = -12dB
So what would I enter if I wanted to reduce target SNR by 3dB or 6dB? EG from 15 to either 12 or 9dB. Or will the figures you quote, actually set the target SNR to 9/9.5/12dB? In my case I would aim to set the target SNR from its current 15dB to 12dB or 9dB.


try the value 50 to reduce SNR by 3db or value 1 to reduce SNR by 5.5db. So if your current SNR is 15db, entering 50 brings SNR to 12db and 1 to 9.5db. You can also put in intermediate numbers to see what effect this has....don't worry the router won't blow up! smile

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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Jan-11 10:28:29
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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... Its also a cable/FTTC router so future proof.
Thanks for the interesting post - I'm a Broadcom (585v6) fan! Re. Future proof - is it 'IPv6 Ready' logo'd ?

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