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Standard User Craig4646
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 06-Feb-11 20:41:47
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New Router Advice


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Hi,

We've been using an old Belkin F5D7630 router, its now starting to fail on us..... Our line quality is not great and currently syncs at 3200Kbps (line stats below). Of course if a particular router handles longer lines better that would be ideal - but I know they are only modem/routers and cannot preform miracles.

We connect with only an ADSL up to 8 Meg connection. Our exchange has no other providers and no ADSL2+ and doubt that would be the case in the near future (no current plans by any provider). Of course if the ideal router is already ADSL2+ ready that wont deter me, but it is not required.

If you need anymore information please let me know, and thanks in advance for any advice / recommendations you can provide.

Craig
Line Stats below:

ADSL Status Information
Status:
Configured
Current
Line Status
--
ShowTime
Date Rate:
Stream Type
Interleaved Channel Data Rate
Fast Channel Data Rate
Up Stream
448 (Kbps.)
0 (Kbps.)
Down Stream
3200 (Kbps.)
0 (Kbps.)
Operation Data / Defect Indication:
Operation Data
Upstream
Downstream
Noise Margin
21 dB
9.5 dB
Output Power
12 dBm
19 dBm
Attenuation
31.5 dB
51 dB
Indicator Name
Near End Indicator
Far End Indicator
Fast Path FEC Correction
0
0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction
0
0
Fast Path CRC Error
0
0
Interleaved Path CRC Error
0
0
Loss of Signal Defect
---
---
Loss of Frame Defect
---
---
Loss of Power Defect
---
--
Fast Path HEC Error
0
0
Interleaved Path HEC Error
0
0
Statistics:
Received Superframes Interleaved
34
Transmitted Superframes Interleaved
31
Received Superframes Fast
0
Transmitted Superframes Fast
0

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 06-Feb-11 21:55:43
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Re: New Router Advice


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Have a look on eBay for a Netgear 834G, GT, PN or N, or a Speedtouch 585v6 or 585v7.

Should be fine.

51dB attenuation should be able to achieve 4Mbps-6Mbps. Have you checked your phone wiring? See my Troubleshooting section, particularly the Ring/Bell wire and Miscellaneous nasties pages.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 06-Feb-11 21:56:45)

Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Feb-11 15:23:22
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Re: New Router Advice


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In reply to a post by Craig4646:
Hi,
We've been using an old Belkin F5D7630 router, its now starting to fail on us..... Our line quality is not great and currently syncs at 3200Kbps (line stats below). Of course if a particular router handles longer lines better that would be ideal - but I know they are only modem/routers and cannot preform miracles.

We connect with only an ADSL up to 8 Meg connection. Our exchange has no other providers and no ADSL2+ and doubt that would be the case in the near future (no current plans by any provider). Of course if the ideal router is already ADSL2+ ready that wont deter me, but it is not required.

If you need anymore information please let me know, and thanks in advance for any advice / recommendations you can provide.

Craig
Hi, the BT Business Hub 2700HGV wireless router is renowned for performing well on a long line, get one cheap on ebay.

http://support.2wire.com/index.php?page=download

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=2wire+2700HGV

Orange (SMPF) LLU 20 Meg. Sync 11864 Kbps Downstream, 1157 Kbps Upstream.
3Com 3CRWDR101A-75 ADSL2/2+ router
Netgear DGN1000 ADSL2+ wireless N 150 Router supplied by Orange
BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 07-Feb-11 15:52:02
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Agreed - get a "new" 2700HGV - you will need to do a couple of tweaks but they are not difficult.





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Standard User Craig4646
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Feb-11 19:52:24
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Hi thanks for all the advice...

Roberto thanks for the advice to check our wiring... We actually have 14 telephone sockets in our house and already have the router plugged in behind the master socket. Before we did this we only got 1meg. But I'll have a look through your guide on the weekend when I have a bit more time.

With the 2700HGV what sort of tweaks would I need to do in order to get it to work?

Many thanks
Craig

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 07-Feb-11 20:06:29
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Nothing too difficult ...

http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm Check whether you have a V4, 5 or 6 and follow instructions as appropriate.


And I thought I was bad with 8 or 9 sockets on the line!





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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Feb-11 20:11:53
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In reply to a post by Craig4646:
Hi thanks for all the advice...

Roberto thanks for the advice to check our wiring... We actually have 14 telephone sockets in our house and already have the router plugged in behind the master socket. Before we did this we only got 1meg. But I'll have a look through your guide on the weekend when I have a bit more time.

With the 2700HGV what sort of tweaks would I need to do in order to get it to work?

Many thanks
Craig


This website is a good guide to unlocking the router so it will work with your ISP's connection


Edit > beaten to it by MHC , my post had a long way to travel you know tongue laugh

Alastair

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Edited by Apprentice (Mon 07-Feb-11 20:14:53)

Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Feb-11 21:22:21
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In reply to a post by Craig4646:
Hi thanks for all the advice...

With the 2700HGV what sort of tweaks would I need to do in order to get it to work?

Many thanks
Craig
Hi, I made this quick help for configuring the 2Wire 2700HGV Wireless router.

2Wire BT Business Hub 2700HGV Wireless Router to unlock follow the instructions...

Configure the Locked BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV Router for any ADSL ISP connection.

BT Business Hub 2Wire BT2700HGV Router.

Type, http://192.168.1.254 in your web browser address bar and press enter, then from the router System Summary page, click Setup, Run System Setup Wizard.

SET UP YOUR BT2700HGV Router.

Use the BT Key Code: 528Y - 27G4 - A222 - 22BJ - B22V

or BT Key Code: 528Y 2374 - A222 - 22BJ - B2QA

or use Manual Key Code: 5225 - 2374 - WG62 - 22AS - BJ7P

Click, [Advanced] then input your ISP settings.

TIME ZONE (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, Dublin, Edinburgh, London.

Click, NEXT

Select Connection Type: PPPoA

VIP:0 <--- (this is a zero)
VCI:38
ATM Encapsulation: Routed VC-Mux
ATM PVC Search: Disabled

Click, NEXT
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Go to http://192.168.1.254 from the router System Summary page, click Broadband Link and Advanced Settings, at (Broadband Link Advanced Settings) page, input your ISP Username and Password. Here you can input the Broadband IP Address, Subnet Mask, DNS and MTU. After you have input the settings...

All you need to configure this locked router for any ADSL ISP.

Note: [Do Not click Save] To save your ISP settings within the router, paste...

javascript:document.pagepost.submit()

...only, into your browser address bar, then press the keyboard [Enter] key.
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If the router broadband link drops-out, to reconnect...

Go to http://192.168.1.254 then from the router System Summary page click, Broadband Link -> Diagnostics - at the (Broadband Link Diagnostics) page, click [TEST].
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Best website for instructions on BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV router
http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm

http://support.2wire.com/index.php?page=download
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Orange (SMPF) LLU 20 Meg. Sync 11864 Kbps Downstream, 1157 Kbps Upstream.
3Com 3CRWDR101A-75 ADSL2/2+ router
Netgear DGN1000 ADSL2+ wireless N 150 Router supplied by Orange
BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 07-Feb-11 22:38:23
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We actually have 14 telephone sockets in our house and already have the router plugged in behind the master socket.
A labourious task, but it would be worth checking that no extensions work.

tongueHow do 14 pairs get into T2 and T5?tongue

Also if you have a phone-connected burglar alarm, that is often wired into the A/B hidden terminals at the back, with no filter. That should be at the control panel end.

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Standard User Craig4646
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 08-Feb-11 21:03:19
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Thanks for all the advice I've brought the BT Business Hub on eBay much cheaper than buying a new router.

Thanks E7er for the quick guide to unlocking the router, hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult when it arrives.

RobertoS, we had a new build house and my father had the builders install phone sockets in every room no idea how this was done. All I do know is when we first opened to the test socket (and plugged the filter and router into this socket) the rest of the extensions did not work, but the speed increased from 1-3meg. We then got a cable from the 'phone' extension of the filter and connected it to a nearby phone extension and it seems which after which the extensions worked.

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