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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 09-Jan-13 12:07:36
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Re: Use 3com router 3crwdr100y-72 as wifi signal amplifier


[re: ngllgn] [link to this post]
 
if your vodafone router can be configured offline after a reset you may be able to locate the settings for the server that does the automatic provision and change them, or put in an entry in the DNS to "poison" it and prevent a connection.

This is done on 2-wire units used by BT to prevent auto-upgrade of features, it's a bit device and ISP specific. If you can find any settings relating to provisioning or with URLs or IP addresses at vodafone, 3com, etc you might be able to do something about it.

An access point is a generic wired to wireless device. The typical home ADSL wireless router combines a modem, router, 4 port switch and wireless access point.

Netgear make a standalone wireless repeater thingy, you plug it in the mains near the edge of the range of your primary wireless router and it provides a repeat of the wireless signal without requiring configuration of WDS on the primary.

http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/products/wireless-rang...

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Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Wed 09-Jan-13 12:16:36
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[re: ngllgn] [link to this post]
 
The 3Com wireless router is stated by the manufactures to have a wireless range of 1000 ft and should reach all rooms in your home, unless you live in a modern house with tin foil backed plasterboard.

Power line adapters would be ideal for your network set-up, but as MrSaffron says don’t go for cheap ones they are usually more problematic to configure, go for devolo.

Watch the video http://www.devolo.com/consumer/dlan-mains-supply-net...

Example…
Main router 192.168.1.1
3Com access point 192.168.1.2
3Com access point disable DHCP

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004DNYA1K/ref=asc_df_B00...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00472MMC6/ref=asc_df_B00...

My Broadband Speed Test
EE broadband WBC 20 Mbps. Sync 11864 kbps Downstream, 1189 kbps Upstream.
Bright Box ADSL2+ wireless N Router supplied by Orange
BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router

Edited by E7er (Wed 09-Jan-13 12:58:10)

Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:05:37
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Re: Use 3com router 3crwdr100y-72 as wifi signal amplifier


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by yarwell:
if your vodafone router can be configured offline after a reset you may be able to locate the settings for the server that does the automatic provision and change them, or put in an entry in the DNS to "poison" it and prevent a connection.


Yes, I have been able to reset and reconfigure this router offline, and made some effort to locate the settings that the server does for automatic provision, but whatever I did manage to do, I failed to "poison" it sufficiently so it always reconnected and hard-reset itself almost immediately. I might have another go at it as it drives me crazy.

This is done on 2-wire units used by BT to prevent auto-upgrade of features, it's a bit device and ISP specific. If you can find any settings relating to provisioning or with URLs or IP addresses at vodafone, 3com, etc you might be able to do something about it.


I could provide a lot of details if you were willing to try and help me out, but that might rather impose on you and I do not presume to do that.

An access point is a generic wired to wireless device. The typical home ADSL wireless router combines a modem, router, 4 port switch and wireless access point.


OK, thanks. I am clear about that now.

Netgear make a standalone wireless repeater thingy, you plug it in the mains near the edge of the range of your primary wireless router and it provides a repeat of the wireless signal without requiring configuration of WDS on the primary.

http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/products/wireless-rang...


This is certainly the easy and right way to go, although it would not be nearly as satisfying as taking control of the primary router back from Vodafone.


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Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:06:47
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Re: Use 3com router 3crwdr100y-72 as wifi signal amplifier


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Would you recommend another inexpensive model?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:10:28
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[re: ngllgn] [link to this post]
 
what's the model of the main (Vodafone) router ?

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Phil

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Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:15:46
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Re: Use 3com router 3crwdr100y-72 as wifi signal amplifier


[re: E7er] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by E7er:
The 3Com wireless router is stated by the manufactures to have a wireless range of 1000 ft and should reach all rooms in your home, unless you live in a modern house with tin foil backed plasterboard.

Power line adapters would be ideal for your network set-up, but as MrSaffron says don’t go for cheap ones they are usually more problematic to configure, go for devolo.

Watch the video http://www.devolo.com/consumer/dlan-mains-supply-net...

Example…
Main router 192.168.1.1
3Com access point 192.168.1.2
3Com access point disable DHCP

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004DNYA1K/ref=asc_df_B00...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00472MMC6/ref=asc_df_B00...


OK, just saw this post thanks.

The 3com router may well have that range, but the problem is that it is not the router supplied by my ISP which is a Huawei Echolife HG556a. I have tried to replace the latter with the 3com router, but I am unable to configure it correctly to talk to the Vodafone servers.

I will have a look at the Devolo adapters.
Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:18:13
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Re: Use 3com router 3crwdr100y-72 as wifi signal amplifier


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by yarwell:
what's the model of the main (Vodafone) router ?


Huawei Echolife HG556a
And I have the manual too.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:36:14
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[re: ngllgn] [link to this post]
 
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/huawei/hg556a - third party firmware ? may also allow WDS

Don't see the Huawei doing anything with ADSL that the 3COM won't, what are the WAN settings ?

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 15:52:10
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[re: E7er] [link to this post]
 
OK, if there are no other options, of those two Devolo products you recommend, the second seems more likely to do what I want viz. the Devolo 1409 dLAN 200 AV Wireless-N Starter Kit. I will think about this and see if I can buy it in Spain with the right plugs on it. Thanks again.
Standard User ngllgn
(newbie) Wed 09-Jan-13 16:09:03
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In reply to a post by yarwell:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/huawei/hg556a - third party firmware ? may also allow WDS


I just spoke to technical support at Vodafone...not very encouraging as the person I spoke to seemed to know far less that I do, told me that he was not authorised to grant me administrator privileges, but that he would log an incidence number so that someone could ring me back about it. "Read" nothing will ever come of this route. The third party software link above is very interesting but I fear that without some walk-though guidance from someone, even the instructions given for its installation are going to be too much for me, particularly as while I am doing it I will not be able to get on-line (although I would print off all the instructions first.)

Don't see the Huawei doing anything with ADSL that the 3COM won't, what are the WAN settings ?


That is probably very true. Here are the settings for the Huawei:

Router/LAN settings

IP ADDRESS OF ROUTER
IP address of router: 192.168.0.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
LAN Domain: Vodafone.DSL.router

DHCP SERVER CONFIGURATION
Enabled
Star of IP address range: 192.168.0.192
End of IP address range: 192.168.0.254

LIST OF RESERVED IP ADDRESSES
My computer and mobile phone are listed with their respective IP and MAC addresses

Here are the WiFi settings:

WiFi PARAMETERS

General WiFi parameters
WiFi is enabled.
Channel 11

SSID 1 WiFi parameters
Name of SSID1: my network name
Mask SSID 1: unchecked
Security WPA2-PSK (TKIP with ASCII password)
There are no MAC addresses on the white list of MAC addresses

Edited by ngllgn (Wed 09-Jan-13 16:10:15)

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