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Standard User PeeBee
(learned) Thu 30-Jan-14 22:10:57
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Faulty DSL filter


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Bt Openreach engineer came today to investigate intermittent fault causing both voice and broadband drops over last week or so - no noise on line; speeds OK. Reckoned to test the DSL filter and pronounced it faulty! What's the lifespan of a filter?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 30-Jan-14 22:22:32
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1 day to 10+ years.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Fri 31-Jan-14 07:25:36
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What's the lifespan of a filter?
They work until end of life… which is defined as the day it stops working frown

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Fri 31-Jan-14 07:46:40
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Usually 1 day longer than the guarantee period frown

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Standard User PeeBee
(learned) Sun 02-Feb-14 13:56:18
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Flippant comments aside. What are the signs of a faulty filter?

I can find no advice re changing them at a particular point in time - therefore what is the lifespan?

As they are usually included in the box with the ISPs router, does this make them the ISPs responsibility?

Having spent hours allegedly troubleshooting my fault, at no point has anybody mentioned filters.

Smells like BS from Openreach to me.
Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Feb-14 15:15:22
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I don't see why a filter should really be any different from any other electronic item. I've often heard it said that electronics have an early life failure - a matter of months, or last for quite a few years.

However I'd have thought that realistically the life of a very inexpensive piece of consumer electronics is fairly unpredictable. And the problem with a filter, compared to (say) a cheap radio, is the difficulty of knowing that it's failed.

If it was suggested to me that a filter had failed, or if I suspected the possibility, I'd replace it to see if it made any difference.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 02-Feb-14 15:18:56
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However I'd have thought that realistically the life of a very inexpensive piece of consumer electronics is fairly unpredictable.

And that is the main reason the military pay so much more for electronics.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 02-Feb-14 15:42:03
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There is no lifespan for a cheap consumer grade product. They are being pushed out as cheap as possible using the cheapest components available on the day they were made. There might be a 2 second test on each one and maybe a little more testing and characteristic checking on 1 in every 1,000 or 10,000 but that is it. If consumers want filters with a guaranteed lifetime of 5 years then they will need to pay three, four, five times the price - but no one wants to.


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Standard User PeeBee
(learned) Mon 03-Feb-14 10:07:31
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In reply to a post by MHC:
There is no lifespan for a cheap consumer grade product. They are being pushed out as cheap as possible using the cheapest components available on the day they were made. There might be a 2 second test on each one and maybe a little more testing and characteristic checking on 1 in every 1,000 or 10,000 but that is it. If consumers want filters with a guaranteed lifetime of 5 years then they will need to pay three, four, five times the price - but no one wants to.


But it's worth it if the only way of knowing that its faulty is by an engineer attending to test and charging £50 for the privilege.
Standard User billford
(elder) Mon 03-Feb-14 10:18:09
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But it's worth it if the only way of knowing that its faulty is by an engineer attending to test and charging £50 for the privilege.
It isn't the only way- keep a couple of spares and swap them out if you suspect a problem. Much cheaper and a heck of a lot quicker than waiting for an engineer to miss the appointment!

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