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Standard User michty_me
(regular) Tue 03-Jun-14 11:09:08
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Fibre modem cable routing


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Morning all,

I went live with Zen fibre on Friday afternoon and all appears well so far.
At the moment my fibre modem is in the hall where I have hooked my Billion 7800DXL into.
I'm tempted to re-locate both to my computer room.
I went to Maplin and bought this cable for the socket to the modem.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ultra-high-speed-adsl-cabl...

Do you think I would see a drop in speed/reliability using something like this?

I also bought this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/network-cable-flat-cat-6-5...

At present I'm torn in running the modem cable through the cupboard into the computer room but if it is likely to cause issues or speed drops, Then I may just keep the modem where it is and then run the network cable through the cupboard and into the computer room to connect the billion.

This leads me onto my next question, Should I hang fire before switching off the modem if I do move it seeing as it was only installed on Friday. Is there a training period where I should avoid power offs etc or if I did switch it off, Would I see a line profile drop? I'm more used to the BE setup I had where it wouldn't change profiles.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 03-Jun-14 11:40:28
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Morning all,

I went live with Zen fibre on Friday afternoon and all appears well so far.
At the moment my fibre modem is in the hall where I have hooked my Billion 7800DXL into.
I'm tempted to re-locate both to my computer room.
I went to Maplin and bought this cable for the socket to the modem.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ultra-high-speed-adsl-cabl...

Do you think I would see a drop in speed/reliability using something like this?

I also bought this:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/network-cable-flat-cat-6-5...

At present I'm torn in running the modem cable through the cupboard into the computer room but if it is likely to cause issues or speed drops, Then I may just keep the modem where it is and then run the network cable through the cupboard and into the computer room to connect the billion.

This leads me onto my next question, Should I hang fire before switching off the modem if I do move it seeing as it was only installed on Friday. Is there a training period where I should avoid power offs etc or if I did switch it off, Would I see a line profile drop? I'm more used to the BE setup I had where it wouldn't change profiles.



Sorry, but I will have to insult you and call you a MUG.

£17 for a 5m cable of that sort - that is a total rip-off. If you can, return both for a refund.

As for the second one - much the same and I would also have doubts about the construction. Flat cables tend to be non-twisted and loose their noise rejection. It claims to be Cat6 - most Cat6 I use is 23 AWG or 0.6mm in diameter. Add the insulation to that and it comes to just over 1mm diameter, 24AWG is about 0.98. As the pair twist you will get one on top of the other giving 2mm thickness, add the outer insulation and 3mm would be a minimum - they claim 1.6mm which immediately raises suspicions.

Leave the modem where it is - as close as possible to the master and just use a very short RJ11 to RJ11 cable such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2M-2-Metre-RJ11-to-ADSL-Br... (or shorter) to connct with. Then run Cat5e cable to your router -


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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-Jun-14 12:17:28
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As for the second one - much the same and I would also have doubts about the construction. Flat cables tend to be non-twisted and loose their noise rejection. It claims to be Cat6 - most Cat6 I use is 23 AWG or 0.6mm in diameter. Add the insulation to that and it comes to just over 1mm diameter, 24AWG is about 0.98. As the pair twist you will get one on top of the other giving 2mm thickness, add the outer insulation and 3mm would be a minimum - they claim 1.6mm which immediately raises suspicions


It doesn't say 100% copper either - or does the spec of cat6 mean that it has to be 100% copper? I've only used cat5e 100% copper for gigabit LAN's smile


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Standard User michty_me
(regular) Tue 03-Jun-14 12:25:44
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Sorry, but I will have to insult you and call you a MUG.

£17 for a 5m cable of that sort - that is a total rip-off. If you can, return both for a refund.

As for the second one - much the same and I would also have doubts about the construction. Flat cables tend to be non-twisted and loose their noise rejection. It claims to be Cat6 - most Cat6 I use is 23 AWG or 0.6mm in diameter. Add the insulation to that and it comes to just over 1mm diameter, 24AWG is about 0.98. As the pair twist you will get one on top of the other giving 2mm thickness, add the outer insulation and 3mm would be a minimum - they claim 1.6mm which immediately raises suspicions.

Leave the modem where it is - as close as possible to the master and just use a very short RJ11 to RJ11 cable such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2M-2-Metre-RJ11-to-ADSL-Br... (or shorter) to connct with. Then run Cat5e cable to your router -


Hahaha you are probably right enough that it is indeed a total rip off but I wanted a cable that day to get my desktop up and running. Its not exactly bank breaking money either but I see your point.
I'll just return it and get a refund seeing as it won't be used anymore.

I'll just stick with the network cable to Billion as suggested and also change it for a proper twisted pair cable.
Standard User michty_me
(regular) Tue 03-Jun-14 13:18:22
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Could you recommend a good quality modem cable? The one that came with the modem looks a bit naff to be honest. Looking for a well built durable cable.

Would these items be good enough?

http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/cat5e-network-cable.html

http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/high-speed-rj11-dsl-cab...

Edited by michty_me (Tue 03-Jun-14 13:30:37)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 03-Jun-14 13:35:18
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If you are looking at 1m or less you could be OK. There is the one I linked to in my post - but that is 2m long.

Do a quick ebay search - Cat5e RJ11 cable. There will be plenty, chose one with a circular cross section and with boots. It should only cost you £1-£2.

And those linked you have to will be fine. Tandy/ADSLNation understand DSL and don't go for marketing hype with massive price overheads.


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Standard User michty_me
(regular) Tue 03-Jun-14 13:43:20
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If you are looking at 1m or less you could be OK. There is the one I linked to in my post - but that is 2m long.

Do a quick ebay search - Cat5e RJ11 cable. There will be plenty, chose one with a circular cross section and with boots. It should only cost you £1-£2.

And those linked you have to will be fine. Tandy/ADSLNation understand DSL and don't go for marketing hype with massive price overheads.


Brilliant thanks.
The other items shall be going back to Maplin ASAP. In my hungover haste I just wanted my PC hooked up. I'll get these cables ordered right now. Thanks for the quick help.
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