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Standard User bdg2
(regular) Wed 09-Jul-14 01:46:05
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Why are all ADSL/2/2+ models such utter [censored]?


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Does there even exist one single ADSL modem that, when the noise level increases a bit, doesn't either:
a) just sit there with no data at all able to get through doing nothing at all about it.
or
b) re sync every five minutes
??
Why are they all such totally useless utter [censored] [censored]?

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 09-Jul-14 08:05:48
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Yeah, there some which do what you want. An important consideration is matching the chipset in the modem with the DSLAM, this is often different across different ISP's.


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Standard User ian007jen
(member) Wed 09-Jul-14 08:17:47
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You need to investigate further....good modems....bt business hub (2 wire 2701hgv)...the current openreach fibre modem (hg612) unlocked and on adsl is rock solid (on my connection).

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 09-Jul-14 08:49:24
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If you are running a 3dB target noise margin the answer may be to raise target noise margin so modem has space to handle the noise spikes without being swamped with errors.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 09-Jul-14 09:53:18
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In reply to a post by ian007jen:
You need to investigate further....good modems....bt business hub (2 wire 2701hgv)...the current openreach fibre modem (hg612) unlocked and on adsl is rock solid (on my connection).

IAn



The 2700 was even better - I have seen them operating with a negative SNR and still achieve near full speeds without too many errors.


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Standard User bdg2
(regular) Wed 09-Jul-14 12:49:42
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That would do, or if I could choose the maximum speed I want to connect at.
But for some reason this is something I can only hope to do if I have infinite patience and assertiveness and ability to understand people with ludicrously heavy accents who barely speak English.
Why doesn't nobody think to make it so this stuff can be controlled from the users end???

Standard User bdg2
(regular) Wed 09-Jul-14 12:54:37
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Yes my HG612 is usually fairly good, but after the rain yesterday it kept sticking with do data going through until I forced a resync.

I'm using unlocked firmware A2pv6C030b.d22g is that what you're using?

I found it seemed to be better than the newer firmware with, if I remember correctly 035m in it.

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 09-Jul-14 13:24:26
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I'm a bit puzzled as to how long you have had this problem. You've been around a fair while, and I assume tried several modems. The connection behaviour you describe just isn't normal.

Are you sure the issue isn't the modems, but wiring or some serious noise issues arising either remotely or locally? From your opening post that is what I would be looking for.

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Standard User bdg2
(regular) Wed 09-Jul-14 13:45:13
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People who connect at less than about 4Mbps download seem to be fine. Changes in the noise levels at those lower frequencies are presumably less. Everyone else has some problems, most commonly if you switch on and connect in the day you will lose connectivity as it changes to night time and the noise level rises. This isn't just me, many people with ADSL have this problem. I've been through the trying to get BT Openreach to fix thnigs once, a few years ago, when I KNEW correctly that the main problem was a fault at the exchange and frankly I never want to do it again. I just can't take the accusations, implications that I'm ignorant and know nothing, threats that I'll have to pay if the fault is in my equipment etc. My nerves simply can't take that again.

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(staff) Wed 09-Jul-14 14:45:44
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Fritzbox routers let you tweak settings to improve stability as do some other third party routers.

What routers have tried and what are the actual line stats

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