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Standard User richi
(learned) Thu 12-May-16 15:33:21
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Best all-in-one router for TT LLU long line?


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I'm with Pulse-8, a TalkTalk Business reseller. I'm too far from my FTTC cab to benefit from VDSL, so I'm stuck with getting the best out of ADSL2+.

I'm currently using a creaky old Technicolor TG582n, which reports the MSAN is IFTN.

My question: What's the best value all-in-one router right now? I don't need gigabit, nor fancy Wi-Fi ac. Most important is to get the best from the line, ideally including margin tweaking.

Thoughts?


Edit: modem stats below. I know I can do better than this with a margin tweak, as a previous router achieved 14. My TG582n is my spare and can't be tweaked....

Uptime: 6 days, 1:57:02
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.020 / 13.271
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,7 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 20,1 / 38,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 11,8 / 5,5
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 3.176 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 2.467.741
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 96 / 5.732
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 49 / 63.854

3 km line on THTG: 13/1 Mb/s with Pulse8

Edited by richi (Thu 12-May-16 16:15:29)

Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-May-16 16:03:45
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Posting your current stats would help as your 582n may be as good as it gets in your case.

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Standard User richi
(learned) Thu 12-May-16 16:15:01
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Thanks. Post updated with stats. I know I can do better than this with a margin tweak, as a previous router achieved 14. My TG582n is my spare and can't be tweaked.

3 km line on THTG: 13/1 Mb/s with Pulse8


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 12-May-16 17:05:01
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Are you sure that router can't be tweaked? It looks like a Mk1 to me which could, as opposed to the Mk2 which didn't have a Broadcom chipset.

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 12-May-16 17:08:31
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If you're happy using the TG582N for its wifi then pair it up with a Draytek Vigor 120 or 130 (latter has newest Lantiq chipset) as these ADSL2+ modems use the same chipset (Infineon/Lantiq) as the TalkTalk DSLAM in your exchange. You can't adjust the SNR on these but you probably won't need to as they give the optimum sync rates on TT ADSL2+, at least for short & medium length lines. Many moons ago the Draytek120 used to give me a sync of ~18 meg on my 29db attenuation TT line!!

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Standard User richi
(regular) Thu 12-May-16 17:16:02
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Thanks. I've driven myself batty poking around int he telnet interface, but I can't find it. BTW, it has Plusnet's firmware loaded, so that may prevent it.

Can you point me to a primer on how to tweak it, if it's possible?

3 km line on THTG: 13/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 12-May-16 19:05:28
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I suspect the Plusnet firmware has telnet disabled. I assume at the command prompt you have done
(Note that you may find before you can telnet into a Netgear router that you need to enter the following in your browser URL bar:-

http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug

That opens a window empty except for “Debug Enabled”. You can close that window immediately.)


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Standard User richi
(regular) Thu 12-May-16 23:03:56
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TG582n isn't a Netgear.

Telnet isn't disabled, but not all of the usual Broadcom commands are there, e.g., adsl or adslctl

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 12-May-16 23:22:28
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Sorry, brain fade crazy frown.

Check xdslcmd. That's the command on Huawei kit.

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Standard User richi
(regular) Wed 25-May-16 22:46:29
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Update: I got a great deal on a TP-Link Archer D2. It's taken my sync speed from about 13.2 to 14.5, without tweaking. Wi-Fi range improved and good to have gigabit. For the future, I'm ready for IPv6, once TTB finally get its finger out.

3 km line on THTG: 13/1 Mb/s with Pulse8
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