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Standard User Nick_H
(experienced) Wed 30-May-18 11:02:59
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Replacement modem router - Asus or TP-Link?


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After having connection problems recently, I am considering replacing an old Netgear DG834G v2 modem router with something more modern. My budget is up to £100.

The following seem to be good options (both available from Currys):

Asus DSL-AC56U (£79.99)
TP-Link Archer VR400 (£69.99)

The Asus looks like a better router with gigabit LAN and a USB 3.0 port, but I have read that there may be potential modem stability issues.

Any opinions? Is there anything else I should consider?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 30-May-18 12:39:56
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Only looking at ADSL2+ ?

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Standard User danielhyde
(newbie) Wed 30-May-18 13:42:09
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Re: Replacement modem router - Asus or TP-Link?


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Hi Nick,

I would personally recommend the TP-Link.
Both routers are Gigabit Ethernet and both have ADSL/VDSL modems built in.
As you said the Asus has USB 3 so if you plan to use the port for shared storage it may be the better option.
I sell TP-Link routers to any home users that require a better than ISP supplied router and the VR400 is one of the most popular.

Kind Regards
Daniel Hyde


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Standard User Nick_H
(experienced) Wed 30-May-18 14:19:10
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Currently I am on an ADSL2+ product with Zen and paying just over £30 per month. Cheap fibre from Vodafone, PlusNet or SSE is becoming increasingly tempting. However, Zen have been very good in the past with no noticeable contention at peak times. I am slightly worried about the performance of a cheaper product.

I am constantly losing connection, and Zen can't find any fault on my line. They warned me that I could face a charge if they called out an Openreach engineer, so I thought that the first step would be to upgrade the modem router. Then if the problem can't be fixed migrating to VDSL2 is an option.
Standard User Nick_H
(experienced) Wed 30-May-18 14:30:09
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Daniel,

Thanks for your advice.

Yes. The TP-Link has 1 gigabit LAN/WAN port - the Asus has 4 gigabit LAN ports.

https://www.tp-link.com/uk/products/details/cat-15_A...
https://www.asus.com/Networking/DSL-AC56U/specificat...

I probably won't be using the USB port anyway so that is why I was considering both routers.

Nick.
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(staff) Wed 30-May-18 14:46:48
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The TP-Link has a Broadcom chipset which is generally the preference for VDSL2 i.e. should mean G.INP and vectoring support

Moving to dual band wireless should help as the 5GHz band is less prone to congestion/interference even if when we are talking about ADSL type speeds

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 30-May-18 15:24:06
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You could check what make of cabinet you are connected to as it makes sense to use a router that works well with the cabinets chipset. See Kitz website.

Michael Chare
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Wed 30-May-18 17:23:09
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I wouldn't touch ASUS modems, they aren't the best for reliability in my experience and quite some others too unfortunately.

TP-Link is probably your best option of the two.

Broadcom and Lantiq chipsets are the best, but their performance varies depending on your line and the chipset the DSLAM uses. For my line, I find the DrayTek (has a Lantiq chipset) works best compared to Broadcom.

Edited by Ixel (Wed 30-May-18 17:24:39)

Standard User fuzed
(regular) Wed 30-May-18 17:44:37
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Go with the TPLINK - I've got the v900 V2 - great speeds , only downside is the GUI and limited support for stats - TPLINK are a bit [censored] for that side for that sorta thing.
Standard User Nick_H
(experienced) Wed 30-May-18 18:25:54
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It is a Huawei 288/384HD FTTC cabinet, which means a Huawei MA5603T line card with a Broadcom chipset. I am about 600m away.

So I assume that a TP-Link also with a Broadcom chipset would be a sensible choice if I decide to upgrade to VDSL2 in the future?
Standard User Vorlon
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 30-May-18 21:15:54
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I've had good experiences with both makes and the last Modem/Router I used on my last ADSL2+ connection was an Asus DSLN55U. It's just been packed away at the back of the cupboard at present. I'd offer to give it away, but I guess the negative aspect is that the Firmware Version probably hasn't been updated for some years now.

I've got the Tp Link VR900 V1 which caters for the popular technologies and the Version 2 is available now:-

https://www.tp-link.com/uk/products/details/cat-5030...

I'm not sure what chipset this Version 2 utilises, but I'm sure some of the people here will know.
There are Version 1's around too, but I've seen Version 2 sell for around £120. (sorry I know slightly higher than you suggested budget wise)

Edited by Vorlon (Wed 30-May-18 21:24:41)

Standard User wdg
(newbie) Mon 04-Jun-18 15:01:35
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FWIW I am just about to return an ASUS DSL-AC56U to the shop.
It was I thought a good router/modem - nice looking, good interface and easy setup: fixed my dodgy ADSL problems with better than Plusnet did.
logged in in the morning I could not et any internet Short version - somehow, overnightt, my Macbook Pro or router thought I was in Germany (I do like Bavari! but haven't been anywhere like that for years!)

So -OK eventually ended up trying a firmware reset and reload.

BIG problem - couldn't load drivers. Turns out that, unstated anywhere by ASUS, they cannot load drivers from a Mac - as confirmed by an email from them this a.m."...unfortunately... etc..."

What I did find intriguing was that apparently this model was first released in 2013!

Anyway, I too will be following this thread - now I need one that I am sure will work with my Macs.
TerryB
Standard User wdg
(newbie) Mon 04-Jun-18 15:33:49
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As posted on this thread - I am looking for a new modem router to go with my Mac.
I was looking up the TP-Link Archer vr900 at http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tp-link/1404497/tp-li...
when I found this
"Specifications Modem: VDSL2, Wi-Fi standard: 802.11ac, Stated speed: 1300Mbit/s, USB ports: 1x USB3, 1x USB2, Wall mountable: No
www.dabs.com
The Archer VR900 is the ADSL modem-equipped version of TP-Linkís Archer C9, one of the best cable-only 802.11ac routers Iíve seen. Itís not just suitable for ADSL connections though Ė itís also VDSL compatible, so will work with Fibre To The Cabinet (FTTC) and cable connections too, although not with Fibre To The Premises (FTTP) lines. "

This left me confused - can please point me to something on this since I am trying to "future proof" myself and have been told that our village will (thanks to a grant) all be getting FTTP next year!
TIA - TerryB
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 04-Jun-18 16:37:47
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Take a look at pictures on https://amzn.to/2HkkYmK

LAN port 4 has a dual purpose, i.e. can operate as an Ethernet WAN port, which is what you need to plugging into a Fibre ONT which is what you get when FTTP is deployed from Openreach, though some FTTP deployments use an all in one device i.e. fibre ONT and router built in, so you have little choice but to use their kit.

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Standard User ADSLvirgin
(newbie) Tue 05-Jun-18 17:04:27
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Just in case someone here knows - I need a replacement for my ageing Billion Bipac 7800N, but I MUST have the ability to adjust the SNR to optimise speed, as I'm 2 miles from the exchange and it's the only way to get the speed anywhere near acceptable.

Do the TP-links have this ability (usually via a hidden 'feature') please? The rest of the specs look impressive.

If not what's the best modem router for ADSL with SNR adjustment 'tweaking'?

Many thanks

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Standard User Glovepup
(newbie) Sat 09-Jun-18 15:19:50
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I had one of these on my ADSL and it's chip allows you to Telnet to it to tweak the SNR.

TP-LINK TD-W8960N

If memory serves me right, the newer versions don't have the option. Worth checking.

Thanks
Glovepup

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Standard User ADSLvirgin
(newbie) Thu 14-Jun-18 22:13:23
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Ah - that's an option I hadn't thought of - I'll investigate... Many Thanks Glovepup!

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