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Standard User Bob_s2
(member) Fri 15-Apr-11 18:24:20
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Broadband Costs by Population Density


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Below gives the cost per home passed and gives an indication of where Broadand becomes to expensive to roll out

Cost per Home Passed

London £250
>then 500K population £400
>then 200K population £475
20K lines clustered £400
20K Lines Sparse £800
10K lines clustered £475
10K lines clustered £1200
3K lines clustered £475
3K lines Sparse £1200
1K lines clustered £600
1K lines sparse £2000
>1K lines clustered £900
>1K lines clustered £3300
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 15-Apr-11 18:29:47
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Re: Broadband Costs by Population Density


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You have 1 hour to post a reference to where these numbers come from, there are so many unknowns in what you posted that it is misleading

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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User wirelesspacman
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 15-Apr-11 18:30:20
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Interesting range of numbers, but a bit meaningless without the underlying assumptions! smile

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Standard User Bob_s2
(member) Fri 15-Apr-11 18:54:06
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Re: Broadband Costs by Population Density


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What a doubting Thomas you are. You denied that proposals existed for an Broadband Consortium as well

I get a very strong impression that you work for BT or are involved with BT because you are always very biased towards BT. It comes over very strongly in your posts.

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/det/policy/110301nextgenera...
Standard User camieabz
(legend) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:04:29
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Maybe rural farmers should charge appropriate prices for milk, eggs, cattle and crops based on the location of the consumer.

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Standard User Bob_s2
(member) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:07:11
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It is not the consumer but who they wholesale to. Those costs will be included in the retail price
Standard User Ignitionnet
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:09:29
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
What a doubting Thomas you are. You denied that proposals existed for an Broadband Consortium as well

I get a very strong impression that you work for BT or are involved with BT because you are always very biased towards BT. It comes over very strongly in your posts.

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/det/policy/110301nextgenera...


Page 6 of http://www.broadbanduk.org/component/option,com_docm... has the stats that is taken from.

He was right regarding a 'broadband consortium', it's Fujitsu building a Cisco based network not a consortium of UK service providers those guys are going to be customers of the 'consortium'.

FYI Virgin themselves are doing another FTTP trial, as are Talk Talk and Sky. FTTP trials are the in thing and an NGA consortium of sorts has been mooted however it's not an FTTP build.

The main issue for Talk Talk and Sky is that they both go for the mass market with low pricing, not conducive to NGA.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:12:20
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In reply to a post by camieabz:
Maybe rural farmers should charge appropriate prices for milk, eggs, cattle and crops based on the location of the consumer.


Given the 'consumer' to the farmers is a distribution centre and ongoing logistics costs from there are paid by the retail customer it's not an issue.

Can't really do the same with physical infrastructure.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:13:45
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Your high number of contentious/ill-informed/fanciful/unrealistic threads is getting extremely tedious, quite apart from making you look rather naive.

When you start questioning MrSaffron's integrity you become merely pathetic.

Why don't you just answer his question? The last thing we want here is unsubstantiated figures that purport to be well-founded.

Put up or shut up.

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Standard User wirelesspacman
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 15-Apr-11 19:22:54
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You state:

"Below gives the cost per home passed..." which implies that this is the one and only accurate cost that will always apply, and then proceed to merely quote some figures created by a firm of consultants who have never rolled out a network in their lives!

The last Analysys Mason report on the cost of fibre deployment I saw (produced for BDUK iirc) contained some very broad-brush, unsubstantiated assumptions on basic costs.

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