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Standard User adrian109
(learned) Wed 24-Aug-11 09:17:51
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FTTC Sub 15Mb


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From the BT broadband checker I get the following for my line:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 11.1Mbps and upstream line speed of 4.4Mbps.


Is this estimate calculated from the exchange to the cabinet or from the exchange to my master socket?

The reason I ask is because I would like to find a way to increase that estimate over the minimum 15Mbps threshold.

I have 3 junction boxes from the drop cable to the master socket and I was wondering if this section was included in BT's speed estimate whether if I was to replace this junction boxes with a new drop cable to a new master socket located in a more accessible place within the property whether this would make BT re-test my line speed?

I'm currently on BT Broadband option 1, with these line stats.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1447553688.png

ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 10 days, 0:19:30
Downstream 4,544 Kbps
Upstream 1,171 Kbps


ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 9.3 dB / 5.1 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 46.0 dB / 27.6 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 7970 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local) 5340
Standard User Ribble
(member) Wed 24-Aug-11 09:34:50
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Re: FTTC Sub 15Mb


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Its an estimate of what to expect at the premises and maybe off a little or a lot, though it will prevent you ordering Infinity .
Standard User mr_bean
(regular) Wed 24-Aug-11 10:02:54
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Its an estimate of what to expect at the premises and maybe off a little or a lot, though it will prevent you ordering Infinity .
Although it will prevent you ordering "Infinity" BT have a separate product for sub-15Mb/s estimates ("BT Broadband with fibre" I think - search the forums) and several other ISPs will take orders for FTTC where the estimated speed is less than 15Mb/s

If you get connected you might find the speed to be quite a bit better - my estimate was 26.8Mb/s but I connect at the full 40 (or just barely a smidge off, still enough for the fastest IP profile speed of 38717Kb/s)


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 24-Aug-11 10:50:29
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It is an estimate from Cabinet to Premises.

The stats you show will have NO bearing on the estimate.

What is the point in increasing the estimate if the final result will be the same? A few metres of cable in the house will have negligible effect. Go for the sub-15Mb product and if it rises above then you are in luck.





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Standard User G3UZF
(committed) Wed 24-Aug-11 11:22:04
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I have the 'Broadband Option 3 with Fibre' as Infinity here was estimated as 14.6Mbps, so couldn't order it.

However, my Fibre connection D/L is well above the estimated speed and goes at 25Mbps and is reliable at all times. About 600 Metres from the Cabinet.

Upside is with Infinity you can have a 10Mbps U/L whereas With Fibre it's capped at 1.5.

Not a problem for me as I rarely upload much.

Just wish BT would not charge 'With Fibre' Customers the same as for Infinity.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 24-Aug-11 11:43:29
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Are you sure it's capped at 1.5Mbps connection speed, or is it 2Mbps connection and 1.5Mbps is what you get as throughput? What does the BT speed tester show?

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Standard User Going_Digital
(knowledge is power) Wed 24-Aug-11 11:52:11
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There seems to be nothing you can do to change the estimate. The estimate does not seem to work on anything more than the length of cable from the cabinet to the pole. Even if the information held in the BT database is wrong they will not let you order Infinity. Way to go BT, make it harder for potential customers to order your product.

I wanted to order infinity but couldn't due to their incorrect estimate of 12Mb turns out I have over 20Mb with my new ISP IDNet. Even now informing BT that the line runs at over 20Mb they still would not do anything about it. I have a second line that I would like to put on infinity but they won't budge, the BT Broadband with Fibre is not a suitable alternative for me. So BT your 'computer says no' attitude is loosing you customers!

I wonder if when BT start using the new 80Mb profile the limit for Infinity will stay at 15Mb or be updated to 30Mb ?

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Standard User G3UZF
(committed) Wed 24-Aug-11 12:08:34
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RobertoS-

Here is the result of the test...


Test1 comprises of two tests

1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
20447 Kbps

0 Kbps 27584 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

> Download speedachieved during the test was - 20447 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 19308-27584 Kbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is -27584 Kbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
1445 Kbps

0 Kbps 2000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 1445 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 2000 Kbps


We were unable to identify any performance problem with your service at this time.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 24-Aug-11 14:53:15
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That is a 2Mb max upload speed - but I have yet to find anyone with a 2Mb upload who achieves better than 1.7Mb ...





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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 24-Aug-11 15:31:40
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In reply to a post by MHC:
That is a 2Mb max upload speed - but I have yet to find anyone with a 2Mb upload who achieves better than 1.7Mb ...


Pretty much the same as the 10mb product topping out at about 8Mb, i can never get over around 8-8.1Mb in speedtests

Which is due to the sync speed and IP profile both being 10000kbps, unlike the downstream where most users get 40000kbps sync with the 38717kbps IP profile.

BT Infinity
~200m from NILDW PCP21
40000/10000 Sync

Edited by BuckleZ (Wed 24-Aug-11 15:35:47)

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