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Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-11 12:41:31
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Re: Fibre Broadband - Traffic Shaping


[re: orly] [link to this post]
 
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Must be hard to ignore the truth

What part of the truth. ADSL24 to not block ports, do not shape and off-peak IS unlimited.

DrT

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 10-Dec-11 13:30:57
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Re: Fibre Broadband - Traffic Shaping


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In reply to a post by orly:
Must be hard to ignore the truth
What part of the truth. ADSL24 to not block ports, do not shape and off-peak IS unlimited.
Where's the ?? tongue

I agree to a large extent with what orly said about Zadek's post. The Anonymous poster made a perfectly sensible comment which should not be ignored.

ADSL24 is of course a perfectly reasonable recommendation by Zadek and yourself.

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Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-11 15:24:02
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Re: Fibre Broadband - Traffic Shaping


[re: Zadeks] [link to this post]
 
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Ignore Anonymous. Check out Zen, ADSL24, PlusNet, etc.

Of those ISPs above only plusnets FTTC is cheaper than BT (also traffic managed), the other two are more expensive for less allowance than BT.

Since I don't use P2P BT Infinity is fine for me, nothing else seems to be throttled.

BT -> Zen -> F2S -> Bulldog -> Be* -> BT Infinity
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Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Sat 10-Dec-11 15:26:24
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Did you read the OP's post? He uses BitTorrent. PN will remove the shaping if one pays a little extra.
Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 10-Dec-11 15:32:27
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The only problem being that the peak time is 16 hours a day? It's very easy to say it's unshaped when you lock people down to tiny peak time allowances. Sounds like a form of rather aggressive throttling to me. We'll ignore the price too unless you go for the really low usage options.

My post was related to Zadeks telling the original poster to ignore people recommending BT. He keeps reappearing in these sorts of threads from time to time until I correct him on his flawed understanding of how the service works. Then he disappears for a while.

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Standard User Matt182
(member) Sat 10-Dec-11 16:13:53
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Re: Fibre Broadband - Traffic Shaping


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Exactly, what they give with one hand they take with the other.

This is why I am having such a hard time working out what ISP is best for me, none of them seem to offer what I am looking for apart from the likes of BT.

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# TISCALI -> freeserve -> Wanadoo -> plusnet -> ZeN -> ADSL24 -> ZeN -> Sky

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 10-Dec-11 16:16:22
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Exactly, what they give with one hand they take with the other.

This is why I am having such a hard time working out what ISP is best for me, none of them seem to offer what I am looking for apart from the likes of BT.
Sounds like you need to start a new thread saying what you want to do on it smile. See if any of us can help, rather than confuse this one.

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Standard User Matt182
(member) Sat 10-Dec-11 16:20:28
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That was not my Intention, was just backing up what orly was saying thatís all smile

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Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-11 16:30:05
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Yes I did and it is possible to get around the shaping on bitorrent on BT I believe. Which is probably what the anonymous poster was doing.

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Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-11 16:59:50
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[re: orly] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by orly:
The only problem being that the peak time is 16 hours a day? It's very easy to say it's unshaped when you lock people down to tiny peak time allowances. Sounds like a form of rather aggressive throttling to me. We'll ignore the price too unless you go for the really low usage options.

My peak time is 12 hrs a day on the Office pro with ADSL 24.

Throttling and shaping are IMHO no way similar or analogous to a full-speed peak time up front allowance. People choose their own peak-time allowances - you make is sound like the ISPs are doing something underhand.

DrT

Stress - the condition brought about by having to resist the temptation to beat the living daylights out of someone who richly deserves it.
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