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Standard User brightd
(experienced) Sun 06-Jul-14 08:53:16
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
You may well be correct with the technical term. My order on the BT Retail site calls it Fibre Home Phone Line.

David

plusnet Unlimited customer
DrayTek Vigor 2830n

Edited by brightd (Sun 06-Jul-14 09:37:35)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 06-Jul-14 09:14:31
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: brightd] [link to this post]
 
FVA is the Openreach name the other must be BT Retails name for it

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User PaulKirby
(newbie) Mon 07-Jul-14 10:47:13
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I have a question, if Openreach or their sub contractors are delayed installing FTTP what Phase are they currently at for Ilford Central due to my Cabinet says Phase 05b I know I won't be using a cabinet due to its a direct fibre from the exchange to my house, but I have seen posts talking about phase 11 upwards etc.

And if everything is done in those phases why hasn't ours, its been delayed by 3 years November and we are still part of the 66% and no matter who I talk to they haven't a clue and all say sorry no fibre scheduled.

I know I have said in my previous posts that there was rumours that there was some issues like the fibre snapping etc. but 3 years frown

I am not asking for the reasons why its been delayed, but just wanting to know when or when about it will be done or if they are back working on it, due to all Fibre providers say no and cannot get any more info.

And we are going to need to get new broadband connections due to brother has moved out and soon to drop his old line here and main bb connection and also taking his other bb on our line, so it would be nice to know round about when it would be available so we can align up our BB connection so that its minimal contract length expires around the time the fibre becomes active.

Would hate to buy a ADSL BB package to then find out that fibre is here a few months later.

Thanks
Paul


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Standard User PaulKirby
(newbie) Mon 07-Jul-14 23:17:05
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
That didn't come across right and is too late to edit...
It should of said the following:
And if everything is done in those phases why hasn't ours, its been delayed by 3 years November and we are still part of the 66% and no matter who I talk to they haven't a clue what's going on and all say sorry no fibre scheduled.

Edited by PaulKirby (Mon 07-Jul-14 23:18:02)

Standard User MaxNRG
(member) Sat 15-Jul-17 16:48:00
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
Five and half years after I started this thread LNILC 66 is now in 'Field Survey' Status for FTTC. Openreach site says 9-12 months till we have a service that can be ordered and no sign yet of any build works (obviously).

I'm happy but making sure I don't get my hopes up too high till I see some evidence of the Fibre Cab. Does anyone know a relible way to calculate copper run distance between my house and my cabinet other than walking the path of the underground ducting?

Asus DSL-AC68U
on EE & Sky Unlimited ADSL
(Formerly on Be Bonded Service, alas killed by Sky)

Sky : speedtest.net : 13th July 2015 20:43 BST
23ms ping : 3.77Mb/s Down 0.60Mb/s Up : London Server


Be Internet : speedtest.net : 2nd Jan 2013 12:13 GMT
21ms ping : 4.24Mb/s Down 0.91Mb/s Up : London Server
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 15-Jul-17 17:35:58
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: MaxNRG] [link to this post]
 
Oh, BT are rolling out FTTC now for the remaining lines on our exchange well non EO Lines which might either get their own cabinet or be moved to their nearest one.

I was lucky and ended up getting FTTP due to the hardware being live, sadly everyone else on the same PCP cabinet will be getting FTTC, even though there is FTTP infrastructure already in place.

My cabinet which is 24 is down as "live due by March 2018" however its due to be done within the next 5 months.

So in 5 months if all goes to plan I will see both FTTP as well as FTTC for my line.

I have just done some quick checks and have the following:

Cabinets 1, 2, 3, 13, 14, 16, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 45, 53
Down to be completed and available within 5 Months.

Cabinets 28, 29, 38, 46, 47, 66
Down to be completed and available within 9 Months.

Cabinets 44
Down to be completed and available within 12 Months.

Cabinets 30, 33, 64
Down as not getting fibre atm.

But those dates are dependant on what infrastructure is already there and what happens from now and then.

I think its about 2.32 km (1.44mi) between your cabinet and the exchange routing how I thin kit might go, so this is all just guess work here.

Exchange : Cabinet 66

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM

Edited by PaulKirby (Sat 15-Jul-17 17:49:42)

Standard User MaxNRG
(member) Sat 15-Jul-17 18:04:22
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
Oh, BT are rolling out FTTC now for the remaining lines on our exchange well non EO Lines which might either get their own cabinet or be moved to their nearest one.

I was lucky and ended up getting FTTP due to the hardware being live, sadly everyone else on the same PCP cabinet will be getting FTTC, even though there is FTTP infrastructure already in place.

My cabinet which is 24 is down as "live due by March 2018" however its due to be done within the next 5 months.

So in 5 months if all goes to plan I will see both FTTP as well as FTTC for my line.

I have just done some quick checks and have the following:

Cabinets 1, 2, 3, 13, 14, 16, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 45, 53
Down to be completed and available within 5 Months.

Cabinets 28, 29, 38, 46, 47, 66
Down to be completed and available within 9 Months.

Cabinets 44
Down to be completed and available within 12 Months.

Cabinets 30, 33, 64
Down as not getting fibre atm.

But those dates are dependant on what infrastructure is already there and what happens from now and then.

I think its about 2.32 km (1.44mi) between your cabinet and the exchange routing how I thin kit might go, so this is all just guess work here.

Exchange : Cabinet 66

Paul


Thanks for the overall exchange status Paul. You are very lucky to have grabbed FTTP!

I think my line is 4-5km to the exchange (based on my ADSL line attenuation). I was actually looking for a tool to work out my home to cabinet line length so I can estimate VDSL speeds I can expect.

Asus DSL-AC68U
on EE & Sky Unlimited ADSL
(Formerly on Be Bonded Service, alas killed by Sky)

Sky : speedtest.net : 13th July 2015 20:43 BST
23ms ping : 3.77Mb/s Down 0.60Mb/s Up : London Server


Be Internet : speedtest.net : 2nd Jan 2013 12:13 GMT
21ms ping : 4.24Mb/s Down 0.91Mb/s Up : London Server
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 15-Jul-17 18:37:18
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: MaxNRG] [link to this post]
 
For my connection there was a lot involved to get BT to install it, including emails being sent by my local MP and myself.

As for your actual distance, well its all guess work TBH, just work out how it could be routed using common sense from your home to the cabinet.

See I use to get about between 4 to 5Mbps on a very good dry day when on ADSL2+, and I am about 2.7 to 3.5km from the exchange.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | BQM #4 Linksys WRT 3200 ACM
Standard User MaxNRG
(member) Sat 25-Nov-17 22:22:05
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
...

I have just done some quick checks and have the following:

Cabinets 1, 2, 3, 13, 14, 16, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 45, 53
Down to be completed and available within 5 Months.

Cabinets 28, 29, 38, 46, 47, 66
Down to be completed and available within 9 Months.

Cabinets 44
Down to be completed and available within 12 Months.

Cabinets 30, 33, 64
Down as not getting fibre atm.

But those dates are dependant on what infrastructure is already there and what happens from now and then.

Exchange : Cabinet 66

Paul


4.5 months on and my Cabinet LNILC 66 has been in the 'Build' stage for a while with no evidence of any actual infrastructure work. Code Look says the FTTC live date is December 2017 (Fantasy as far as I can tell). Paul can you check your sources for an up to date estimate? Did your cabinet get FTTC?

Asus DSL-AC68U
on EE & Sky Unlimited ADSL
(Formerly on Be Bonded Service, alas killed by Sky)

Sky : speedtest.net : 13th July 2015 20:43 BST
23ms ping : 3.77Mb/s Down 0.60Mb/s Up : London Server


Be Internet : speedtest.net : 2nd Jan 2013 12:13 GMT
21ms ping : 4.24Mb/s Down 0.91Mb/s Up : London Server
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 25-Nov-17 22:28:41
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Re: Ilford Central FTTP Rollout


[re: MaxNRG] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MaxNRG:
4.5 months on and my Cabinet LNILC 66 has been in the 'Build' stage for a while with no evidence of any actual infrastructure work. Code Look says the FTTC live date is December 2017 (Fantasy as far as I can tell). Paul can you check your sources for an up to date estimate? Did your cabinet get FTTC?

As far as I can see loads are being done over the next 4 to 6 months, some should be done between the next few weeks and within the first quarter of next year.
As for what cabinets they are I cannot tell you.

Sadly I have lost most of my sources that I use to abuse LOL, but I will try and take a look.

As for my Cabinet 24, yeah it went live not long ago with FTTC, I am now glad I kept pestering the people high up in BT to get my FTTP.

*** Update ***
Found this for cabinet 66.

Date: 27 Nov - 8 Dec
Location: Blackthorn Road, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: Install 4m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245072600 

Date: 27 Nov - 8 Dec
Location: Loxford Lane, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: Install 4m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245072601


Some homes on cabinet 48 have FTTP and the rest are due to get FTTC.

Date: 7 Dec - 20 Dec
Location: Lavender Place, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: Install 25m of 1 way poly duct in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500251798300  

Date: 7 Dec - 20 Dec
Location: Uphall Road, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: Install 5m of 1 way poly duct in Footway.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500251798301


Cabinet 13:
Date: 30 Nov - 13 Dec
Location: Connaught Road, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: Install 8m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500243809000


Cabinet 28:
Date: 4 Dec - 15 Dec 
Location: Dore Avenue, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 6m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245062301   

Date: 4 Dec - 15 Dec 
Location: Gainsborough Avenue, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 3m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Install 8m of 2 poly ducts in Carriageway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base, 
Description: Install 1m of 1 way power duct in Footway,
Description: Performing an 1excavation to expose existing power cable in Footway.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245062303


Cabinet 23
Date: 16 Nov - 29 Nov 
Location: B165 Church Road, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 5m of 2 poly ducts in Footway.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500243880204

Date: 16 Nov - 29 Nov 
Location: Gainsborough Avenue, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 15m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500243880205


Cabinet 46
Date: 20 Nov - 1 Dec  
Location: A117 Forest Drive, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 1m of 2 poly ducts in Verge,
Description: Install 20m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Install 8m of 2 poly ducts in Carriageway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245057201

Date: 20 Nov - 1 Dec  
Location: Capel Road, Manor Park, London, Newham
Description: Install 1m of 2 poly ducts in Verge,
Description: Install 20m of 2 poly ducts in Footway,
Description: Install 8m of 2 poly ducts in Carriageway,
Description: Provide, Renew or Recover 1 DSLAM street cabinet and base.
Work Ref: BC006CT001LC500245057202


Cabinet 1 (I Think)
Date: 1 Dec - 7 Dec  
Location: Oakfield Road, Ilford, Redbridge
Description: DSLAM STREET CABINET & POWER INSTALLATION plus PCP RESHELL. 
Description: Excavate to lay BT ducts, Lay concrete plinth, Stand cab. 
Description: Excavate to expose low voltage cable for Power Connection and lay duct. 
Description: POWER engineer to carry out inspection prior to jointing. 
Description: POWER jointing team to insert cable and execute jointing works. 
Description: Reinstate, Check and clear site. Maximum excavation depth 700mm.
Work Ref: BC006KNLEPSEILFRDCNTRL11


Cabinet 2 is live with FTTC


This is about all I could find when doing a quick search.
Hope it helps.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 312.47 Mbps (down), 29.78 Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest | Linksys WRT 3200 ACM (BQM)

Edited by PaulKirby (Sat 25-Nov-17 23:51:20)

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