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Standard User NVB
(member) Tue 07-Feb-12 18:18:56
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Dire torrent upload speeds using Infinity off-Peak.


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I'm on BT Infinity Option 2, have been for about a year and during that time I've never seen my útorrent upload speeds go any higher than approx 100 - 110 kB/s after midnight.

The BT traffic management table says ...
"We only apply traffic management controls to peak time P2P traffic, which is not time critical and can run at full speed during the off peak period".

My own experiences say otherwise. Yesterday morning around 4 am when my torrent upload speeds were hovering between a painfully slow 80 - 100 kB/s, I stopped the torrents and ran the Glastnost project test

results: 07 Feb 2012. time is 04.00

"Your ISP appears to rate limit your uploads

Details:
* Your ISP appears to rate limit your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests, uploads using control flows achieved up to 8411 Kbps while uploads using BitTorrent achieved up to 995 Kbps.

Details:
*There is no indication that your ISP rate limits your downloads."

Now I've posted about this before on the BT Infinity Community forum, the advice I got there was to either buy a seed box or VPN, both of which require extra cash that I don't have. There's no doubt in my mind that BT are throttling back P2P upstreams 24 hours a day, there doesn't seem to be an off-peak period if you use torrents. Downstreams are fine no problems, but off-peak upstreams are dire. My torrent client is connectable, the network settings are correctly configured for port forwarding and firewall. Why do BT restrict P2P upload speeds after midnight ?

Edited by NVB (Wed 08-Feb-12 01:58:25)

Standard User Matt182
(member) Tue 07-Feb-12 18:48:26
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Re: Dire torrent upload speeds using Infinity off-Peak.


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Well, if even after peak times you are still having problems then it sounds like your bit torrent program is not configured correctly.

Check out the post by izools http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4089502-bt-... about what settings you can try.

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Standard User NVB
(member) Tue 07-Feb-12 19:02:55
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Re: Dire torrent upload speeds using Infinity off-Peak.


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has nothing to do with the client as confirmed by the Glasnost test, my uploads were being restricted to 995 Kbps at 4am in the morning

Edited by NVB (Wed 08-Feb-12 01:59:08)


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Standard User Croftie
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 00:17:45
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Re: Dire torrent upload speeds using Infinity off-Peak.


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The bit you quoted refers to download speed, further up the page it refers to the upload speed:

Upstream restrictions may be in place at other times.

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10495...

I'm only a light torrent user but rarely see up speeds of more than 1Mb.
Standard User NVB
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 01:41:15
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In reply to a post by Croftie:
The bit you quoted refers to download speed, further up the page it refers to the upload speed:

Upstream restrictions may be in place at other times.

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10495...

I'm only a light torrent user but rarely see up speeds of more than 1Mb.


The part I quoted was from the final paragraph of BT's Broadband usage policy and that's what I have a problem with, BT say they want to be completely transparent regarding their Traffic Management policy ...

"BT has always made sure information about our traffic management policy is available to customers and that is why we are in support of the Broadband Stakeholder Group's voluntary code of practice on traffic management."

but then they cover themselves with this statement ... "Upstream restrictions may be in place at other times."

Nowhere in any of those traffic management tables do BT say what they are actually doing, which is traffic managing P2P upload speeds around the clock. I don't have a problem with traffic management but I do have a problem when I want to upload something on P2P well after midnight, well outside the BT peak period and I see my upload speeds piddling along at 900 kB/s when my line is capable of 8 Mbit/sec. These off peak restrictions on P2P uploads are too severe
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Edited by NVB (Wed 08-Feb-12 02:12:07)

Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Feb-12 02:12:48
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People aren't usually too worried about upstream direction. What exactly is it that you're sharing that requires especially high upload speeds?

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Standard User NVB
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 02:23:13
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and you represent all people do you ? and why are you particularly interested in what I am sharing. Isn't it funny how genuine question regarding traffic management have a tendency to get sidetracked into what individuals are doing with their bandwidth.

Edited by NVB (Wed 08-Feb-12 02:32:17)

Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Wed 08-Feb-12 02:33:32
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He probably doesn't, but his (generalist) statement is still true. He's just checking whether your requirements really do fall into the specialist level, or whether you are misunderstanding both the page and your requirements.

Certainly the way you have presented your information from the BT policies page suggests you aren't *that* specialist, or *are* confused - otherwise that getout clause would (and should) have stood out a mile.
Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Feb-12 02:37:22
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It was a pretty simple question. You can answer it or not.

The fact is I can't recall seeing any complaints regarding upstream speeds from anyone on this forum and I've been around for quite a while. It seems a particularly niche requirement which is why I queried what exactly it was you were doing.

Limitting the upstream (if BT do that) for stuff like Bit Torrent would seem a rather sensible course of action. A) It's not particularly intrusive. B) Most users wouldn't care in the slightest as most people aren't particularly worried if the person leeching from them is getting 1Mbit or 10. C) Completely unfettered upload speeds could increase the demand on the network for little purpose (see the other points).

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Edited by orly (Wed 08-Feb-12 02:52:56)

Standard User NVB
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 02:57:30
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The only thing that is obvious to me is that BT throttle P2P upload speeds 24 hours a day and that there is nothing in BT's Traffic Management policy to indicate that they are currently doing this, I'm pretty sure some people reading that policy will think OK well I'll just restrict my P2P file sharing to off-peak periods, but there are no off-peak periods. So yes I guess that does make me somewhat confused, naive even.

Edited by NVB (Wed 08-Feb-12 03:24:53)

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