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Standard User Rever
(newbie) Sun 11-Mar-12 23:33:08
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FTTC install?


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I am thinking of getting fibre, either BT Infinity or Plusnet, but before I make a decision I would like some advise on the install process.

My master socket is in the hall with no power sockets nearby. I have a phone extension hard wired into the base of the master plate. The extension socket is in the living room next to a single power socket where the phone base unit is currently plugged in.

A Couple of questions:

Can the engineer convert the phone extension socket into a master?

Do the modem and hub have to be plugged directly into power sockets or would it be ok to plug them into a 3 way extension lead (modem, hub, phone)?

Thanks
Standard User Squirrel
(knowledge is power) Sun 11-Mar-12 23:51:10
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My old ADSL only socket from a 2001 BT engineer install was converted to become my master and VDSL socket. The old master/ADSL socket downstairs became just a phone extension.

My VDSL power supply is plugged intio a 12way extension. My router is in a 6 way extension hanging off the 12 way one !!!!

I cannot see any problem with a 3 way extension lead smile

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 11-Mar-12 23:57:04
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The existing extension wiring may or may not be suitable. Who installed it, and have you any idea what the specification is? Does it have anyything like CW1308 printed on the cable?

Is it hidden behind walls or just attached to skirting boards and such?

The engineer can in any case install a Data Extension Lead from the master to your extension, (or elsewhere if you like), and put the modem at the current or new extension.

A decent engineer would convert the extension into a master, yes. Is the socket in the hall completely unnecessary, or would you need to be able to use it?

Yes, the modem, router and phone base station can all be connected into a 3-way power extension lead.

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Standard User Rever
(newbie) Mon 12-Mar-12 00:10:30
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The existing extension wiring may or may not be suitable. Who installed it, and have you any idea what the specification is? Does it have anyything like CW1308 printed on the cable?

Is it hidden behind walls or just attached to skirting boards and such?
Can't see anything printed on the cable. It is the flat type and I installed it.

I ran it along the bottom of the skirting, tucked down behind the carpet gripper rods. The run is approx 2mtrs.

A decent engineer would convert the extension into a master, yes. Is the socket in the hall completely unnecessary, or would you need to be able to use it?

The current location of the master is of no use.
Standard User Rever
(newbie) Mon 12-Mar-12 00:11:33
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In reply to a post by Squirrel:
My old ADSL only socket from a 2001 BT engineer install was converted to become my master and VDSL socket. The old master/ADSL socket downstairs became just a phone extension.

My VDSL power supply is plugged intio a 12way extension. My router is in a 6 way extension hanging off the 12 way one !!!!

I cannot see any problem with a 3 way extension lead smile
Thanks Squirrel
Standard User R0NSKI
(learned) Mon 12-Mar-12 10:30:54
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My master socket is also in the hall. All my adsl gear is in my server room about 3 meters from the master socket. I changed the lower section of the master socket for a filtered face plate, this from what I understand is the same as what BT will fit.

I've then run CAT5E cable from this face plate using the internal connections to sockets in my server room, one RJ45 and one phone socket.

From what others have said BT will not use my extension socket when they do the FTTC install, but I can just reconnect the wires afterwards.

You can still run your phone extension from the master socket.

Any question's just ask, I can also recommend Plusnet, I've been with them for nine years.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Mar-12 10:35:02
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Flat types are usually unsuitable, as the non-twisted nature can cause havoc with VDSL2.

A data extension installed by engineer seems most likely.

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Standard User Rever
(newbie) Mon 12-Mar-12 20:31:53
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What type of cable and plugs do they use from the master to the modem and from the modem to the hub?
Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Mon 12-Mar-12 20:52:41
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What type of cable and plugs do they use from the master to the modem and from the modem to the hub?
(1) A VDSL2 cable with RJ11 plugs at each end.
(2) An Ethernet cable with RJ45 plugs at each end.

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Standard User kasg
(experienced) Mon 12-Mar-12 20:56:26
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(1) A VDSL2 cable with RJ11 plugs at each end.

VDSL2? It doesn't look any different from any other "modem" cable to me.

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