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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 21-May-12 20:05:10
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
My postcode gives {WMWR}{p10},0,100,3.04,5b,Yes,FTTC

If I'm reading it right this means I should be able to get FTTC, but the checker says no (even though every street surrounding me can get it) any idea what's up?
Standard User KJ31
(newbie) Mon 21-May-12 20:20:12
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


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Hi I am in Worksop, I am with Sky, so the BT checkers do not work. I have been trying to find out if I am connected to cabinet P2 and what area cabinet P2 covers. Can someone Please help.

Postcode
S802BA

Exchange
WORKSOP

Service Type
This postcode has some Exchange Only lines
This means there is currently no cabinet to run FTTC from.
Openreach may deploy FTTC/P in the future to this area.

Probability
77%

Cabinet
M_A


Postcode
S802BA

Exchange
WORKSOP

SAU_NODE_ID
{SLWW}{P2}

Service Type
FTTC

Probability
22%

Speed Increase
3.56

Phase
6B

Cabinet
P2
Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Mon 21-May-12 21:54:34
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
My postcode gives {WMWR}{p10},0,100,3.04,5b,Yes,FTTC

If I'm reading it right this means I should be able to get FTTC,
I agree. smile
but the checker says no (even though every street surrounding me can get it) any idea what's up?
No, sorry. frown

Which checker are you using? I recommend you enter your telephone number into the BT Wholesale Broadband Checker.

Do you know any of your near neighbours' telephone numbers? Have you checked with one of them?

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Mon 21-May-12 22:32:39
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: KJ31] [link to this post]
 
First things first. For the postcode S80 2BA there are two records in the December 2011 file --
SLWW,WORKSOP,S802BA,{SLWW}{M_A},1,77%,,,,
SLWW,WORKSOP,S802BA,{SLWW}{P2},0,22%,3.56,6b,Yes,FTTC
So we can see that approximately 77% of lines from that postcode area go directly to the exchange without passing through a PCP and 22% of the lines from that area are connected via P2. (The missing 1% must, therefore, be a rounding error.) Those percentages are not probabilities, as you seem to have assumed.

Do you know any of your immediate near-neighbours' telephone numbers? Could you check in the BT Wholesale Broadband Checker with one of those numbers?

If I perform a different type of search of that document, I can see all the postcodes that are served by {SLWW}{P2} --

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1
23
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$ awk -F, '/{SLWW}{P2}/ {print $3}' *.csv | sort | uniq | sed 's/^S80/S80 /' | pr -t -4
S80 1DT           S80 1EE           S80 1PH           S80 2BAS80 1DX           S80 1JR           S80 1RH           S80 2EH
S80 1DY           S80 1JS           S80 1RX           S80 2EJS80 1EB           S80 1PD           S80 1RZ           S80 2ER


Hope that will be some help. wink

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 21-May-12 23:34:56
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by burakkucat:
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
My postcode gives {WMWR}{p10},0,100,3.04,5b,Yes,FTTC

If I'm reading it right this means I should be able to get FTTC,
I agree. smile
but the checker says no (even though every street surrounding me can get it) any idea what's up?
No, sorry. frown

Which checker are you using? I recommend you enter your telephone number into the BT Wholesale Broadband Checker.

Do you know any of your near neighbours' telephone numbers? Have you checked with one of them?


Thanks for replying... yes, that's the checker I'm using. As far as I can tell, the whole street gets the same results (I don't know their numbers but their addresses come up the same as mine). Any guesses why?
Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Tue 22-May-12 02:27:47
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: Anonymous] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Thanks for replying... yes, that's the checker I'm using. As far as I can tell, the whole street gets the same results (I don't know their numbers but their addresses come up the same as mine). Any guesses why?
My best guess is that there might be defective information in the database . . . frown

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Standard User KJ31
(newbie) Tue 22-May-12 09:19:36
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by burakkucat:
First things first. For the postcode S80 2BA there are two records in the December 2011 file --
SLWW,WORKSOP,S802BA,{SLWW}{M_A},1,77%,,,,
SLWW,WORKSOP,S802BA,{SLWW}{P2},0,22%,3.56,6b,Yes,FTTC
So we can see that approximately 77% of lines from that postcode area go directly to the exchange without passing through a PCP and 22% of the lines from that area are connected via P2. (The missing 1% must, therefore, be a rounding error.) Those percentages are not probabilities, as you seem to have assumed.

Do you know any of your immediate near-neighbours' telephone numbers? Could you check in the BT Wholesale Broadband Checker with one of those numbers?

If I perform a different type of search of that document, I can see all the postcodes that are served by {SLWW}{P2} --

Text
1
23
45
$ awk -F, '/{SLWW}{P2}/ {print $3}' *.csv | sort | uniq | sed 's/^S80/S80 /' | pr -t -4
S80 1DT           S80 1EE           S80 1PH           S80 2BAS80 1DX           S80 1JR           S80 1RH           S80 2EH
S80 1DY           S80 1JS           S80 1RX           S80 2EJS80 1EB           S80 1PD           S80 1RZ           S80 2ER


Hope that will be some help. wink


burakkucat thanks for taking the time to reply and finding this information. If I am on the right lines does that mean that I am being served by {SLWW}{P2} and I am not a direct exchange connection ?

If I am correct about the above how do I find out if I will be one of the 22% being served by {SLWW}{P2} to get FTTC ?
Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Tue 22-May-12 19:08:26
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Re: How do you know which cabinet you are connected to


[re: KJ31] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by KJ31:
burakkucat thanks for taking the time to reply and finding this information. If I am on the right lines does that mean that I am being served by {SLWW}{P2} and I am not a direct exchange connection ?

If I am correct about the above how do I find out if I will be one of the 22% being served by {SLWW}{P2} to get FTTC ?
Hmm . . . Let's look at the facts. Your postcode is S80 2BA. Of all the telephone lines installed in that postcode area, 22% are connected through {SLWW}{P2} and all the rest go directly to the Worksop exchange.

The remaining capacity of {SLWW}{P2} is used by telephone lines originating from those other sixteen postcode areas, shown at the bottom of my previous post.

Even if you sent me a PM containing your exact address and full telephone number, I would not be able to answer the most important question . . . is your line one of the 22% connected via the cabinet or is it one of the 77% that go directly to the exchange. Sorry. I just don't have those powers of divination. frown

There is one way to obtain the answer. Keep that PCP under close observation. When you see an Openreach engineer working there, approach her/him and ask if s/he would look up the status of your line in the database, via her/his laptop computer.

[A mug of tea or coffee, chocolate biscuits, bacon sandwiches . . . are all means of inducement.]

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Standard User KJ31
(newbie) Tue 22-May-12 23:49:36
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I have already found out that my line is not connected to a cabinet so the option for me is FTTP and if you look I never directly asked you if you knew if I was one of the 22% that was connected I was just saying I hope I was

Edited by KJ31 (Wed 23-May-12 00:56:39)

Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Wed 23-May-12 02:46:38
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In reply to a post by KJ31:
I have already found out that my line is not connected to a cabinet so the option for me is FTTP and if you look I never directly asked you if you knew if I was one of the 22% that was connected I was just saying I hope I was
O.k. If you say so!

Although I have checked both of your two sentences that end with a question mark, I cannot see any evidence for the above assertion. smile

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