you not being force to get their products, you are free to use any other provider of service that meets your requiment.

making things cheaper when yoou buy more is standard everywhere, be in 2 for 3 or reduce unit price when you 10 ext, or even a certain % off when you spend so much.

Offering internet at a cheaper price when you take anopther service follows that same logic if you buying 2 service off me I have 2 cance to make prodift, therefore instead of wanting to make 10 profit per user per product I will happily only make 7£ but as you buying 2 service that mean £14 profit from you.

However If i was inchard I would offer single product but at a mark up, i.e. if you don't tike out line rental add £2.50 to the monthly fee if you don't take our call plan at £5. Bit like sky currently does for their ADSL

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Well, we're constantly working with our suppliers to help us out as best they can, as naturally, the more we sell, the more they benefit too.

To this effect we have some exciting package variations (especially for the higher usage allowances) and also a reduction in the setup fee for new connections and migrations.

We've (finally) signed off the commercials with our supplier so we shall be releasing details on Monday.

Thanks

James

Great news, so will it be available to order today and provisioned the next day?

What time?

Seems as if another date has passed, not surprising though :/

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

Well, we're constantly working with our suppliers to help us out as best they can, as naturally, the more we sell, the more they benefit too.

To this effect we have some exciting package variations (especially for the higher usage allowances) and also a reduction in the setup fee for new connections and migrations.

We've (finally) signed off the commercials with our supplier so we shall be releasing details on Monday.

Thanks

James

I know how difficult it is for smaller ISPs and I don't blame them, I blame the the way this country works by allowing big companies and the government for allowing this in my opinion anti-competitiveness to carry on.

I will have to have a peak to see what you got on Monday, as I said at the moment I am fine with how I am as long as who ever ends up buying Cable and wireless don't pull it all from under us.

Governments can sometime be enthralled to big business. All regulation helps big business because the impact of any regulation no matter how erroneous has a disproportionate impact on smaller enterprises.

Government is not the solution to these anti competitive actions, competition is.

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I know how difficult it is for smaller ISPs and I don't blame them, I blame the the way this country works by allowing big companies and the government for allowing this in my opinion anti-competitiveness to carry on.

Perhaps these smaller ISP's should be allowed/forced to install their own infrastructure rather than piggyback on BT's. Even though you have bought/rent your house how would you feel if the government forced you to share it with me.

Neither is going to happen though.

BT has such a natural advantage though. When privatised it inherited a complete infrastructure, rather than having to start one from scratch. BT like any near monopoly has not being shy of abusing its authority when allowed to. The quid pro quo for the consumer though was ever reducing prices but this was under regulator price controls.

The universal obligations imposed on BT have been one by one lifted though.

i wanted a time where we could just get a naked line, and not bother with one for voice,

That would be an even more costly product I suspect, the ISP's have to recoup their costs, so the margin would be slimmer on a 'naked' service, therefore they would be obliged to charge more.

You doubtless pay more for your bread, milk, and meat, because you choose to buy them from smaller outlets, are you raising similar questions on Thinkcheese.com, I wonder ?

Would not a mobile service better meet your needs, no line rental to pay ?

I'd be interested to know whether a naked line from the fttc cab to the residence could be done.. Surely then there would be less copper to maintain in good working order.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Seems as if another date has passed, not surprising though :/

Just spoke to ADSL24 Sales, they say the 80/20 packages are still being drafted and wont be released until mid to late June

Why such conflicting information? I don't mind waiting but being told a date when it'll be launched which is then missed is worse than not knowing a date in the first place in my opinion!

C.

In reply to a post by blueacid:

I'd be interested to know whether a naked line from the fttc cab to the residence could be done.. Surely then there would be less copper to maintain in good working order.

Do you see this as fttc with no voice service carried at all?