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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sat 26-May-12 16:43:54
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Anyone else getting annoyed about FTTP?


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Here half the town now has FTTC while the other half still waits for FTTP, theres no information or any sign of progress, we don't know whats going like we do with FTTC and it's getting quite pathetic now, all i want to know is can we even expect it this year? Surely someone from openreach has an idea...

At this point it seems like they're using FTTP as an excuse to delay the rollout while claiming a town has fibre.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sat 26-May-12 18:10:44
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Yes.

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(Unregistered)Sat 26-May-12 21:59:45
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Standard User izools
(experienced) Sun 27-May-12 03:25:08
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Here half the town now has FTTC while the other half still waits for FTTP, theres no information or any sign of progress, we don't know whats going like we do with FTTC and it's getting quite pathetic now, all i want to know is can we even expect it this year? Surely someone from openreach has an idea...

At this point it seems like they're using FTTP as an excuse to delay the rollout while claiming a town has fibre.


It's not openreach's fault entirely.

FTTP by it's very nature is much harder to plan, install, and get working than FTTC. Openreach are doing this to a budget which means using existing conduit and poles, so there's far more ducting involved. The process of installing aggregators and splicing fibre all the way up to the customer's premises and beyond is a very complicated one. It requires more time, money, resources, and training.

End of the day, some of the town getting FTTC is better than none of the town getting FTTC.

Same story is true in Exeter. Some parts have had FTTC / FTTP since December, some parts have no plans for anything, and there are some "frustrating" areas that have had fibre laid all the way up the poles with aggregators installed ready for FTTP - quite literally sat like this for over a year now - with no sign of availability or planned availability on any checkers.

It'll happen; but the very nature of the beast prevents accurate guestimations as to when.

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sun 27-May-12 08:39:33
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However complicated it is isn't relevant. Every other operator deploying FTTP has the same issues, Openreach trialled and trialled it and should be quite aware of how long it'll take.

I don't recall Verizon having many big delays to FiOS deployments once they were officially announced. It's purely expectation management, Openreach and in turn wholesale and retail operators should've been more transparent about potential time delays and differences between FTTC and FTTP timescales.

Not that it's purely an FTTP thing of course, the cabinet serving this premises should've been FTTC'd by December 2010, the exchange was only marked as ready according to Openreach's disingenuous method in March 2012 and this cabinet still has no streetworks planned.

Openreach need to start setting realistic timescales and actually sticking to them or pushing them back earlier rather than simply waiting until they're about to expire, adding another 3 months and repeating ad infinitum.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 27-May-12 13:06:47
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I know there's more work involved with FTTP but that's not the issue, the issue is how they've used FTTP as an excuse to delay the rollout in a mixed fibre town, it's incredibly annoying to see lots of progress made right up until it comes time to do FTTP then nothing, it's unfair to see the street next to yours with a cab while you get nothing and have no way of knowing when you might.

Openreach should be forced to rollout fibre to the whole town in a reasonable time after starting, instead what often happens even in pure FTTC towns is a lot of work is done for a while and a town is said to be active then work slows or stops and theres lots of little areas with nothing, this is both unfair and unacceptable.

FTTC/P has been a joke and they should of realised it and gave us FTTC instead by now, it will more than do the job for years to come.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 27-May-12 14:21:51
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interesting approach - so you wnat to force a private company spending its own money to deploye quicker than you think it should be be --

FYI FTTP is not easy and expensive -

if it was your money possibly -- but its not
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 27-May-12 18:52:57
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No what i said was they should be forced to finish in a reasonable time, what happens is they do half a town and then slow to a crawl while claiming a town is active, thats hardly fair on the rest is it?
Standard User anon1
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 27-May-12 19:22:43
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So where does what YOU think is fair come into it?
Standard User zag164
(newbie) Sun 27-May-12 22:39:35
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It is a massive infrastructure operation to install FTTP and if Openreach were forced to stick to quoted timelines all you would see is estimation dates get pushed further back.

Quite frankly if you are getting FTTP then you are one of the few very lucky ones.
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