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Standard User Rygar1
(experienced) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:41:49
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Do the BTO engineers always carry the data extension kit?


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As per title of post. Do they or do you have to request from ISP? Getting Sky Fibre in later this week and was just wondering if you need to make a special request for the data extension. I assume its just an Ethernet cable?
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:53:52
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The ones I have seen are a 68mm box with an RJ14 socket to which 30 metres of 2 pair Cat5e are attached. The socket is installed at the remote location and the cable fed back to the master where the blue & blue/white are connected to the two IDC terminals.

RJ14 is a 6 pin 4 contact registered jack. IT is the same size as an RJ11 which is only 6P2C.


They may always carry them but to use one there needs to be a request from the ISP.


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Edited by MHC (Mon 07-Jan-13 12:57:46)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 13:38:10
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As per title of post. Do they or do you have to request from ISP? Getting Sky Fibre in later this week and was just wondering if you need to make a special request for the data extension. I assume its just an Ethernet cable?
Yes and no. It appears now officially to be called a Home Wiring Solution, not a data extension kit. Possibly since the mod to the interstitial filter that now has A/B connectors to run it from, instead of plug-in. So no specific "kit" needed.

The Home Wiring Solution is free to the ISP and therefore one would hope to you, but the ISP has to order it from Openreach. I assume this is so his allocated/expected job-time can be increased. So you need to ensure Sky order it for you.

I think all the necessary parts are carried as standard, at least by true Openreach engineers. I don't know about contractors such as Kellys and Quinns.

The reason I think this is that if you order the HWS the engineer can install it inside the premises or run it externally, depending on your wishes and his/her assessment of feasibility, and one of them has posted on these forums that the external grade cable is standard van stock. So I assume the internal also is.

It isn't "standard" ethernet cable as there are many qualities of that. I expect it is decent quality Cat5 or CAT6, but that's a guess.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Jan-13 13:39:44
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Think it will be a Cat5e i.e. tour twisted pairs, but Cat6 implies a central plastic core, which makes corners and termination a bit harder

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 13:41:29
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I didn't know that about Cat6, thanks smile.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 14:17:50
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Have just been to look at my neighbours - installed by a real OR tech. It is 2 pair Cat5e and is fitted with a box with an RJ14 socket with te printed computer icon above. the box was prefitted.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 14:36:33
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Yes, that is what the kit was, when the interstitial filter did not have A/B connectors. Note not only that it now does, but it isn't called a data extension kit any more by Openreach. How recently was theirs fitted?
Edit - typo.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 07-Jan-13 18:50:14)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 14:52:01
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About 2 to 3 months back ...


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 18:53:43
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Maybe they've handed them out to the contractors as they aren't safe to make up wired-in ones tongue.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Jan-13 19:14:40
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I didn't know that about Cat6, thanks smile.

We have Cat6 in our data centres, and its a right pain to route into the racks.

I was told Cat5 = upto 100megabit, Cat5e is gigabit for general use, and Cat6 is gigabit for longer runs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat6

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