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Standard User Deadringers
(newbie) Thu 24-Oct-13 05:40:55
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FTTC install - Filters and no faceplate


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Hi all,

The engineer who came along to do my install had a faceplate but didn't install it.

This was due to my socket not being the right size (it's a double as it also has tv aerial on the other half).

Therefore he just installed the service with a filter.

Can someone advise if this is okay or do I really need to get BT back and put a faceplate on there?
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 24-Oct-13 06:59:20
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No, I'm sorry, but you have been stiffed there. Ring up the ISP you ordered it through and raise a complaint.

Standard User eddie1150
(member) Thu 24-Oct-13 08:51:16
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As above,
That socket isnt/shouldnt be your master, so youve been done on this occasion frown


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:22:39
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It could be that the OP or previous occupier had taken the master off and replaced it with an aftermarket master module in a twin gang back box with capacity for 4 modules on the front plate.


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:23:37
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Can you provide a picture of the front and rear of the Master, along with the TV aerial socket.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:24:39
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Could he have one of those modular things we saw a few of a few years ago in new builds? Nothing like an Openreach NTE5 and hugely messy to replace, in that a smart décor would be ruined, as well as TV and possibly power also needing replacement?

They were MK ones like this, but a google for modular telephone sockets found several, this being one, and here's a Clarity one.

Edit - also what is done about external NTE5s?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:26:27
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Snap, except I believe some new builds have them as original equipment. Openreach wouldn't even have seen them when connecting the premises to the network.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:33:56
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Maybe but the original requirement were for a "separate" Master provision and that type of multi-service provision was excluded. If it is, the the OP has no reason for a complaint and he will need to take action to resolve it. It could be that there are two modules in a single back box - how could a master faceplate be installed on one of those without losing the aerial connection?

Solution is simple. Remove faceplate and modules (leaving master connected). Remove backbox, and replace with a TWIN (not dual). Obtain two single facpelates. Install Phone Master in one, TV aerial in the other.

Contact BT and get them to come and install the master to one side of the twin backbox.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:39:21
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The OP isn't complaining. Just asked if it is OK. Answer, yes as long as happy with the look of the dangly filter smile.

I accept it isn't a pukka Openreach installation, but if it works, does it matter? We will meet far worse soon tongue.

The OP's other option at the time was to abort the installation, possibly incurring a £100+ charge, until the work you described, (which may not be feasible), had been carried out. There is no way an OR engineer would have done a satisfactory job with a fully recessed NTE5 socket.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 24-Oct-13 09:44:03)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 24-Oct-13 09:48:25
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The comment about complaint was is response to Zarjaz's post.

As for whether it is OK - what about any extensions - either known and used or just there connected to the master. I have seen one - unused, where teh cable to it was almost 100m long and there was a great notch in the graph showing bit loading.

Cannot see any reason why an OR Tech would not do a good job on a recessed back box.


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