General Discussion
  >> Fibre Broadband


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (show all)   Print Thread
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Nov-13 10:34:19
Print Post

Changes to wholesale checker


[link to this post]
 
I've noticed this morning that the wholesale checker now shows two ranges for FTTC, although they are currently both the same at the moment.

Featured Products Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line rate(Mbps) Downstream Range(Mbps)


Availability Date
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 36.1 36.1 6.1 6.1 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 36.1 36.1 6.1 6.1 -- Available

WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 12.5 -- 10 to 14.5 Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 12.5 Up to 1 10 to 14.5 Available
ADSL Max Up to 8 -- 7 to 8 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
Fibre Multicast -- -- -- Available

For FTTC Ranges A and B, the term "Clean" relates to a line which is free from any wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions, and the term "Impacted" relates to a line which may have wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions.

Throughput/download speeds will be less than line rates and can be affected by a number of factors within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer premises.


Perhaps this is in readiness for self installs.

Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 17-Nov-13 11:15:32)

Standard User Rastus
(committed) Sun 17-Nov-13 11:40:33
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: R0NSKI] [link to this post]
 
I was curious what the term 'Bridge Taps' meant so asked my friend Google.

Here's a link to the Wikipedia page on the subject.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 17-Nov-13 11:53:04
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: R0NSKI] [link to this post]
 
Probably also reflects ability for remote testing to show presence of bridge taps, which usually means extensions in the home, so yes a good indicator for self installs

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Nov-13 12:04:38
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Probably also reflects ability for remote testing to show presence of bridge taps, which usually means extensions in the home, so yes a good indicator for self installs


Extremely fast analysis though - it only took a second to check my phone number. Maybe it would have been longer if I had "bridge taps"? smile

Edited by 4M2 (Sun 17-Nov-13 12:05:25)

Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Nov-13 12:25:37
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
At a guess, the clean figure is based on a theoretical calculation taking into account cable types and lengths, whilst the impaired figure is based on the most recent measurement of the actual line parameters.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Nov-13 15:29:48
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: R0NSKI] [link to this post]
 
Good to see they specify these are line rate rather than throughput. Most of us have always thought this, but it has sometimes caused confusion by not being clear.

It's a bit worrying to see my estimate, that used to be above 50/11 Mbps is now 36.1/6.5 Mbps against my current 59.4/14.4. That's 70%/45% !!

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:03:24
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: Rastus] [link to this post]
 
In terms of UK FTTC it means wiring terminated across the pair before the faceplate filter.

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-Nov-13 10:04:28
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
Why they removed FTTC on my telephone number (the old one use to say FTTC available in 30th November 2014) but it now disappear?

Not happy about this.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg

Edited by adslmax (Mon 18-Nov-13 10:04:51)

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 18-Nov-13 10:27:07
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Why they removed FTTC on my telephone number (the old one use to say FTTC available in 30th November 2014) but it now disappear?

Not happy about this.


This is nothing to worry about, I've seen it happen many a time on the cabinets I've checked. Sometimes it seems to happen shortly before the cabinet goes live. Other times it just disappears not to reappear for a long time.

No idea why it disappears though.

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-Nov-13 10:29:39
Print Post

Re: Changes to wholesale checker


[re: R0NSKI] [link to this post]
 
That's pretty stupid. Sound like BTW are unfit purpose to run the site checker.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to