General Discussion
  >> Fibre Broadband


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | (show all)   Print Thread
Standard User Housey1
(regular) Fri 22-Nov-13 00:19:18
Print Post

FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[link to this post]
 
Just wondering for users close to the exchange e.g. Less 1km. I can't understand why BT don't install some VDSL equipment inside the exchange and connect end users that are close to the exchange with VDSL modems thus relieving the need to Dig and Install a local cabinet.
Standard User Gadget
(committed) Fri 22-Nov-13 08:57:03
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: Housey1] [link to this post]
 
Because the rules (called the ANFP - Access Network Frequency Plan) do not allow anyone to install VDSL in the exchange
Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 22-Nov-13 09:08:44
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: Gadget] [link to this post]
 
To expand on Gadget's correct answer, the ANFP forbids installing VDSL equipment at the exchange to prevent crosstalk with ADSL from interfering with the service of those remaining on ADSL.


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 22-Nov-13 09:32:15
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: David_W] [link to this post]
 
And the answer from BT is to build a new PCP and FTTC cabinet just outside the exchange. If the EO area is large enough it may be done commercially (fairly rare), if a BDUK project and money available they may do something.

A lot depends on how the council/BT in the area are handling the project, there are wide variations across the counties

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Nov-13 09:33:24
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: David_W] [link to this post]
 
They can installed VDSL Cabinet outside the exchange, they can do that without the need ANFP inside the exchange. Maybe BT will do it in the future but not at the moment.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg

Edited by adslmax (Fri 22-Nov-13 09:34:09)

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 22-Nov-13 13:22:58
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
They have already done some that way.

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 26-Nov-13 19:25:28
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: David_W] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by David_W:
To expand on Gadget's correct answer, the ANFP forbids installing VDSL equipment at the exchange to prevent crosstalk with ADSL from interfering with the service of those remaining on ADSL.


seems bizzare?

Doesnt matter where the dslam is crosstalk with adsl will happen and thats why BT are applying power cutback on the adsl tones. Of course the affect is less against adsl lines with low attenuation so the issue is worse for those far from the exchange than close to it. Am I missing something?

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - BQM
Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Nov-13 19:45:21
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: David_W] [link to this post]
 
Is there any actual reason for this past a loophole of the rules? IE: Would it make much difference if a MSAN/DSLAM was installed in the exchange that served both ADSL2+ and VDSL2?

I can't understand how 10-30m of distance would change any of the crosstalk effects with any real measure.

I do wish there was more pressure put on this. It's annoying that happily-subsidised rural areas are often going to have much better broadband access (and less contended 3G/4G) than city centre locations. VM often doesn't serve these areas too as it is so expensive/difficult to dig up the roads and upgrade/install cable.

Seems to me like yet again OFCOM can't get it's [censored] together quickly enough. This issue was raised on these very forums nearly 4 years ago. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/regulation/f/381351...
Standard User Housey1
(regular) Wed 27-Nov-13 21:33:44
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: mr_mojo] [link to this post]
 
Thanks for all the reply's it just seemed a better idea more cost effective to have close users vdsl connected right into the exchange. However red tape gets in the way as usual,
My business is 150 yards from the exchange which I am directly connected to. Currently on BT adsl 20meg and I get full speed no problems, the exchange is just been infinity enabled recently and no availability on infinity just yet on my line and would there be a decision to install FTTP instead.

Grangemouth exchange

Any Ideas out there?

Edited by Housey1 (Wed 27-Nov-13 21:36:40)

Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Thu 28-Nov-13 17:28:33
Print Post

Re: FTTC Not Available to users close to the exchange!!!!


[re: Housey1] [link to this post]
 
Anyone know what would happen for FTTPoD?

Would the exchange be considered a NGA aggregation node?
Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to