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Standard User shep1968
(newbie) Sun 15-Dec-13 22:40:31
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Accessing FTTC inside my house.


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Hi all. FTTC openreach will shortly come to my area. The problem I have is that my master socket in in a totally useless position and I cant really plug my router into it. Instead my router is plugged into an extension socket that an electrician put in and I have a wired connection to my PC which has no wireless ability. BT tell me that with fibre I need to plug my router into the main socket only or else I need to have my main socket put elsewhere. Does anybody know if that is the case as I have had different advice from Orange. Can I plug my router into any of the extension sockets I have around the house?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 15-Dec-13 23:56:55
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There is the home wiring solution which you can ask for when ordering - which will as well as the master socket being converted give you a dedicated data extension (up to 30m of cable) away from the master socket.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Dec-13 07:23:55
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....... or if easier and/or more practical, the NTE can be shifted.


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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Dec-13 11:30:09
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This could result in slower sync rate.

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Dec-13 11:37:29
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can the home wiring extension be used for network cabling rather than moving the modem ?

I have fttc being installed and I want to turn to cat5/6 rather than homeplugs

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Edited by Stanman_24 (Mon 16-Dec-13 11:38:18)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 16-Dec-13 11:41:05
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If it is 4 pair Cat5e then yes, you need to get up to speed on crimping connectors.

Ethernet over two pairs is possible but that limits you to 100 Mbps (if memory is working)

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 16-Dec-13 11:42:25
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It could also result in an improved speed, shifting an NTE5 may mean that the external cabling becomes shorter.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Dec-13 11:43:18
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mmm I am around 200m from cab and been give max fttc speed estimates

I have bought some cat5 cable and connectors so I can wire it from outside my house

wondering if is a better solution ?

KRO BCFC smile

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Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Dec-13 13:28:10
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Ethernet over two pairs is possible but that limits you to 100 Mbps (if memory is working
It is working. 100 Mbit/s Ethernet uses 1/2 and 3/6. Gigabit needs all four pairs.

If Stanman goes through on his idea of running cable externally, he should use external grade cable, otherwise the insulation will be degraded by the ultra violet light.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 16-Dec-13 13:35:45
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Not clear on what you are doing? Rewiring the incoming Openreach line - which is a BIG NO NO or just playing with getting Ethernet around the home.

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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Dec-13 13:45:01
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I wont touch anything to do with the Master socket, I have not even got any extensions

I am getting a good 13-15 MB/s with my homeplugs but I am considering using some cat5e and route around the outside of my house to increase network performance for my server and WAN

hence the free extension with fttc install, I am under the impression can get adaptors for twister pair to cat5e

going for this I think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111224089677

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Edited by Stanman_24 (Mon 16-Dec-13 13:50:12)

Standard User shep1968
(newbie) Mon 16-Dec-13 14:41:55
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How will they connect the master box to the extension that I have and am currently using? Will it be done behind the plasterboard or will they want to route a cable externally up my stairs and into the relevant room? I'm happy for there neat solution and to pay for it but don't want cable trailing everywhere.
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(staff) Mon 16-Dec-13 15:28:17
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The engineer will normally do a surface mount, there is not the time in the install window to do complex internal runs.

If you have ducting, or a route to use, then putting a pull through so they can quickly and easily use the preferred route will usually work, but no obligation, i.e. within rights to refuse and give you choice of leaving kit for you to do it.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 16-Dec-13 15:30:24
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"I am under the impression can get adaptors for twister pair to cat5e"

Still confused - if the wiring you are looking to use if just CW1308 telephone wiring, then not really any good for an Ethernet service, not enough twists, but probably would work.

The ebay item looks fine, just avoid having too much of the cable indoors due to fumes if there ever was a fire.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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