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Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 06-Apr-14 04:33:09
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Rural FTTP with BDUK


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Andrew,

Fancy doing some more magic mapping?

I just found an update from Superfast North Yorkshire, giving a couple of places where FTTP has been deployed: parts of Birstwith and Spofforth.

It'd be interesting to figure out how widespread, and to figure out whey those areas qualified!

http://www.bewerleypc.org.uk/news.php?template=2&id=217
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 06-Apr-14 11:26:09
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Re: Rural FTTP with BDUK


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But BT does not do FTTP as some lobbyists keep telling me smile

BIRSTWITH
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For a start around 50% if done with pure cabinets are estimated at under superfast speeds. Around 150 on exchange only lines

8 cabinets and 7 were given a phase at 3 are live

Cab 1 FTTC available
Cab 2 FTTC available
Cab 3 FTTC available
Cab 5 no date but got phase
Cab 4 no date - no phase either and smallest cab
Cab 6 no date but got phase
Cab 7 7th May 2014 FTTC
Cab 8 no date but got phase

HG3 3AR one of a tight cluster of EO lines near exchange, would guess this is the FTTP ones. Nothing showing to confirm FTTP so a guess.

SPOFFORTH
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Easy to see why FTTP, half are EO lines tightly packed around HG3 1BE

Cab E1 FTTC available
Cab E2 FTTC available
Cab E3 FTTC available

FTTC speeds are good as area is small, you either get superfast or the line is an EO one. Hence why sure that the EO will be the FTTP

Now do I get a piece of coffee cake as a reward?

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Apr-14 20:34:25
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Re: Rural FTTP with BDUK


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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
It'd be interesting to figure out how widespread, and to figure out whey those areas qualified!


I'm not sure BT themselves know why areas would qualify. Any faith I may have had in their modelling has been comprehensively destroyed by personal experiences.


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Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Apr-14 13:42:05
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So FTTP isn't actually orderable yet? I'll postpone the trip out with the camera then...

You can still have the cake though wink
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Apr-14 13:46:10
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Now it may be I missed the first few properties that can order, but given the amount of checking I had done, I was getting bored of the BT Wholesale address checker.

For wider areas I have other private ways to calculate stuff but always do some sanity checking so I can see if model makes sense.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User flipdee
(member) Mon 07-Apr-14 21:46:59
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Surely someone has trained a robot to do the donkey work on the BTw checker by now, and if not, why not?
I especially love the tabular results which are a pain to work with.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Apr-14 22:04:37
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I'm sure it's pretty easy to do with screen scrapping techniques which have been employed for years to scrape data from websites.

Standard User flipdee
(member) Mon 07-Apr-14 22:06:02
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Should we crowd fund a private screen scraper because I sometimes see dsl checker results in my dreams.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Apr-14 22:06:30
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You would need to run the robot every week for 27 million properties to keep it up to date.

There are robots watching at peoples request that others have done, but suspect an automated massed checker would get blocked in a short time.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
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Standard User flipdee
(member) Mon 07-Apr-14 22:12:34
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I used changedetection.com for a while and I think it might have been blocked or at least attempts made to do so.
My issue with the checker is, I know it's designed for "single enquiries" however they obviously realise some of us run abnormally large amounts of checks, at what point would they consider blocking you?
In reality, they do not appear to "restrict" use unless I'm missing something so why not have something which lays all the info out there? Obviously BTw won't invest the money into it as they are fulfilling their obligation already I'm sure.
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