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Standard User jroadley
(newbie) Fri 02-May-14 18:28:53
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FTTP - can residential accounts get it?


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I am on the Aylsham exchange which is set to get Fibre in June. I noticed that the samknows site is showing FTTP as well. My question is, as a residential customer - can I get FTTP or is this reserved for commercial only?

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/EAAYL

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Standard User ccxo
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 02-May-14 18:45:51
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Re: FTTP - can residential accounts get it?


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Sam Knows only covers at a exchange level so their could be both FTTC and FTTP deployed in the Aylsham exchange area but it depends which part as to what service you may be able to order.

FTTP is available to residential customers but only a few isps are selling it due to the low coverage, mainly its FTTC that is available.

Use the below checker to see which cab you are connected to, it may also list if FTTP is planned.

If you're phone number is sky or tt use the address, postcode can cover multiple cabs.

https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

Orange BB 5856/448

Edited by ccxo (Fri 02-May-14 18:48:23)

Standard User jroadley
(newbie) Fri 02-May-14 19:01:49
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Re: FTTP - can residential accounts get it?


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Thanks, I've been checking the usual places (Openreach, roadworks.org and the ADSL checker) - no mention of any Fibre stuff.

Put my BT line into the website below and here's what I get...

http://i.imgur.com/pgDCR7H.png


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Standard User ccxo
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 02-May-14 19:21:51
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Do you know where cab 7 is?

Once a secondary cab appears next to it, keep any eye on the above checker as it will update with a estimated speed and date and will then change to accepting orders.

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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 02-May-14 20:18:09
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Aylsham is listed as FTTC/P here on the Superfast Where and When site.

Now there also used to be another list on there, something to do with new housing estates and there was one in Aylesham which was specified as getting FTTP.

They've recently installed cabinets in Wingham, so they are getting close. I saw them fitting one on the road out of Wingham towards Aylesham a few weeks ago - they had traffic lights causing chaos.

Standard User jroadley
(newbie) Fri 02-May-14 21:08:55
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Cabinet 7 is outside my house. We have new bigger cabinet - there are several round town but none powered. Roll on June (if it goes live then!)
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Fri 02-May-14 21:57:08
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Having read through the thread, it looks like you are to get FTTC, at some point.

But just to answer your original question, yes they can, I've fitted 8 in the last week and a half ! wink

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 02-May-14 22:23:59
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
But just to answer your original question, yes they can, I've fitted 8 in the last week and a half ! wink


Not bad for something that obviously has no demand for it given the laughable roll out thus far.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 02-May-14 22:26:35
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Not bad for something that obviously has no demand for it given the laughable roll out thus far.
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If that is what is rolled out to a particular area, surely the demand levels will be identical to if FTTC had been rolled out there?

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 02-May-14 22:40:04
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
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If that is what is rolled out to a particular area, surely the demand levels will be identical to if FTTC had been rolled out there?


It was my being sassy. High demand for NGA would justify deploying FTTP straight off the bat. High demand is the explanation Openreach give for deploying more FTTP in the Milton Keynes region than pretty much the rest of England outside of Cornwall put together.

Openreach's allergy to CapEx has become abundantly clear, and areas where they're deploying a second FTTC cabinet at considerable cost, and will follow it up by deploying G.Fast, and follow that up by eventually deploying FTTP are a testament to that attitude. They're like someone running on a payday loan who'll pay way more in the future to avoid having to pay now.

Openreach's demand calculations were pulled out of their hindmost, though most of their calculations appear to be pulled out of their hindmost in my experience. My own 96 home passed cabinet with an expected take up of ~25% according to the commercial modelling unit head which ended up being a 400 home passed cabinet with take up of ~50% comes to mind. Bear in mind that Openreach installed all the lines on this cabinet but appeared entirely unaware of what they installed and stubbornly insisted for the best part of a year that the 96 figure was correct.

Their enabling of a cabinet passing less than 200 homes with zero additional premises to be built with a 288 line Huawei just down the road while saying this one was unviable comes to mind. That cabinet hasn't filled a single line card as far as I'm aware, this one only enabled after a campaign lasting nearly a year is on its last set of ties and being evaluated for a second cabinet. Last engineer who attended it informed he'd never worked on a cabinet that had sold so quickly.

The 2.5 billion commercial expenditure figure that Openreach bandy about is likewise laughable. Thanks to their cutting the FTTP down from 25% of the NGA deployment to virtually nothing outside of subsidised Cornwall that has left a figure closer to 1.3 billion of CapEx, not 2.5 billion. A large proportion of the 'commercial' brownfield FTTP has been in Milton Keynes and has been a complete disaster with an overbudget, delayed roll out. They deployed in the wrong places and on hindsight know it.

It's a really sad state of affairs when Kingston Communications invest more freely than BT do. Longer term it'll cost BT more as they install hardware in high demand areas only to rip it out and overbuild it but, hey, the money men are happy in the short term.

Ahh that's better.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 02-May-14 22:41:29)

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