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Standard User dmn1981
(newbie) Sat 02-Aug-14 09:29:22
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Fibre at my new home, how can i get a definitive answer?


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Good Morning,

I hope someone can help me with this, so here's my question.

I am currently a TalkTalk Fibre large customer, and will be moving to a new house in about 4 weeks. The new house is brand new on a new development, just around the corner from where I am now, probably less than half a mile.

I have been trying to check if I will be able to get Fibre once I've moved, but I'm getting a no from TalkTalk and also the BT and Sky broadband checkers on their websites. However, the reason I am querying this is because....

I have checked on SamKnows for my current house, and 2 exchanges come up, both of which are fibre enabled (not sure which im connected to though!), when I do the same check for my new house's postcode, no exchanges come up, therefore, I can only assume that TalkTalk, BT and Sky say no, because maybe they don't know which exchange I am going to be connected to?

I know that the local cabinets also need to be enabled, so that is also something I need to check somehow...?

Seeing as the new house is probably 600-700 meters as the crow fly's from my current house, I am assuming I will be connected to the same telephone exchange as I am now, and it may be just the cabinet that could be my hurdle??

Does anyone know, how I can get a definitive answer before I actually move??

Thanks,

dmn1981

Edited by dmn1981 (Sat 02-Aug-14 09:30:16)

Standard User Ribble
(experienced) Sat 02-Aug-14 09:52:18
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Using the post code only is notoriously inaccurate, which is which it can't pin point the exchange.
Try using the address in https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html
If that fails then the development may not recorded yet or have any bt line plant.
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 02-Aug-14 10:01:57
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I'm sure this is quite common with new-build houses.

The battle is probably one of postcode (almost certainly you'll have a brand new postcode - has it even been allocated yet - before I moved into my new-build property I was given a postcode which placed me in a village, outside of town, when I moved in, it was a completely different postcode which placed me, correctly, inside the town boundary).

Then it's a phone number thing... If you're keeping your current number, the BT database results will be irrelevant (because your number hasn't been moved across yet).
If you're taking a new number, it won't be live yet and may well change anyway (BT have a habit of giving you a number different to the one they confirmed after you placed the order).

The ISPs will rely on the BT database and if that hasn't been updated to include the new postcodes and new cabinets (if the development is large enough, it'll probably have its own cabinets).
There's probably little you can do until you get a live phone line (in the new house) and BT update their database (doesn't normally take too long for new numbers).

You're probably worrying too much about this (unless the new homes will be on a new cabinet; then you'll have to wait for BT to enable it for fibre - took them two years to remember one down the road from me, even though mine was enabled on day 1 of the exchange being enabled).

There is probably zero you can do (until your postcode and/or new number are live on the database), unless you can get BT to do a simultaneous phone and broadband provide (and then, they'll only be able to provide FTTC if the new cabinet has already been enabled)

Ade

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 02-Aug-14 12:10:30
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Would you still move there even if you can't get fibre?

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Stevenage_Neil
(committed) Sat 02-Aug-14 12:36:45
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Would you still move there even if you can't get fibre?


You're beginning to sound like somebody else..........lol
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 02-Aug-14 12:52:20
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?
The reason for asking was that if FTTC is not critical to the move then he can relax. If it is critical then he has a big problem.

I've no idea who the "someone else" may be.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 02-Aug-14 12:56:16
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That's if the cabinet serving the new development is or does become enabled. If it's a new cabinet it may be deemed not "commercially viable" for FTTC unless it is a huge estate.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 02-Aug-14 13:00:45
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And even if commercially viable no firm timescales as the resources are concentrated on the BDUK areas for now.

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Standard User delone
(experienced) Sat 02-Aug-14 14:59:10
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Have you asked the house builder if they have had any contact with BT on broadband provision?

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Standard User Fastman2
(member) Sat 02-Aug-14 17:52:21
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the tell tale sign will be if the development has not engaged with openreach around fibrre (no obligation for developer to do that) and the developement is in excess of 100 premiues and the dveloper has only requested voice services you are likley to find a new copper Cabinet at the entrance to the development -- if there a high changce that is not covered either by Commrcail programme (or BDUK prgoramme if there is one in your area)
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