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Standard User wolf359
(committed) Thu 14-Aug-14 08:58:55
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New line, not on database


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Hi, my daughter had a new line installed on Tuesday, line is active and adsl working fine, she wants fibre but the bt database still shows the address as not having a phone line so plusnet want to install a new line, again. How long should it take after install before the database reflects this?

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Aug-14 09:18:12
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Re: New line, not on database


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Who is the ADSL with and what sort of contract is it on?
Standard User youngsyp
(member) Thu 14-Aug-14 11:38:25
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As I understand it, if your daughter has a MPF package with an LLU (she pays them for broadband and line rental), the line will not appear on BT's database.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 14-Aug-14 11:48:21
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Re: New line, not on database


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ADSL has a one month minimum contract at wholesale level if a BT Wholesale based service.

Generally takes 2 to 4 days for databases to update. Any reason for not ordering the FTTC service originally.

NOTE: As pointed out if this is full LLU via TalkTalk or Sky then the phone number will not work on the BT Wholesale checker, but full address should.

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Standard User wolf359
(committed) Thu 14-Aug-14 12:10:46
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Ok to clarify she's with sky on LLU but is out of contract
She used their house move service to transfer to the new house
I'm aware it won't show on the checker but when she contacts plusnet they say her new address has no phone line at all and want to book a whole new line and engineer visit
fTTC wasn't available when she placed the home move and sky also insisted that it had to be a whole new number etc even though she was moving 10 yards and they could have simply moved the pair in the cab (which is what the engineer ended up doing anyway)
It seems that BT are just slow to update the database to reflect the line being present at the address, she can obviously book fttc with sky but wants to cancel the whole package and move to plusnet, partly because sky were useless during the home move and it took over 3 weeks before openreach installed the line even though sky agreed it should have been done within 12 days, plus openreach cancelled earlier appts without warning or explanation and sky were useless in chasing it up.

So it looks like she will have to wait until they update the database

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Edited by wolf359 (Thu 14-Aug-14 12:12:34)

Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Thu 14-Aug-14 12:15:14
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If Sky have installed a line then it belongs to Sky. For BT to give you broadband, you'll need a BT line, that's why they want to install a new one. I doubt they will change anything at the house, just in the exchange.


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Standard User wolf359
(committed) Thu 14-Aug-14 16:45:44
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I don't think that's correct
I'm also with sky and was told very recently that I could move my line to plusnet without problems
Surely it's just a database error

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 14-Aug-14 17:49:51
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You can probably port the number to BT, but there is the issue of contract, Home Move with providers often incurs a new minimum contract period to cover the costs of the new line etc that they paid out up front.

PlusNet need to do a simultaneous provide to get someone off of full LLU, since voice and broadband have to go at the same time. Or if the voice is done first, you can end up waiting a week or so for the broadband to catch up.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 14-Aug-14 18:07:12
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Can I take my phone number with me?

If you’re an existing Sky customer, unfortunately we are not currently able to transfer your phone number to your new property.
It has to be a problem within their accounts computer system.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 14-Aug-14 18:09:10
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That is to do with taking over an existing line, which is usually but not always possible. However a Sky LLU line does not appear on other ISPs' checkers.

Edit - I forgot frown, youngsyp already said this.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 14-Aug-14 18:10:13)

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