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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 19-Aug-14 21:22:54
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VM building FTTP in Papworth Everard


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Just FYI all, a week and a bit ago some random guy tipped off ISPReview that VM 'may' be deploying FTTP in the Cambridge village of Papworth Everard.

It looks as though that's exactly what they're doing.

No phone service being offered due to the cost of battery back up, but other than that it'll be very interesting to see what VM offer.

Good to see them deploying this technology to some scale in any event. Previous deployments of FTTP were in a similar manner to Sky's test deployment in Amazingstoke covering a really small area while this is a commercial build.

Not sure which of the two technologies available to them they're using here, I'm sure we'll find out when the end user receives his CPE.

Edited by Ignitionnet (Tue 19-Aug-14 21:23:10)

Standard User Icaras
(member) Wed 20-Aug-14 07:57:04
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Re: VM building FTTP in Papworth Everard


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This is interesting. Have they decided that people just don't need a home phone service? I suppose many people would be quite happy to lose the home phone. I can't see many people paying separately to have an Openreach landline also.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 20-Aug-14 08:00:23
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Re: VM building FTTP in Papworth Everard


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In reply to a post by Icaras:
This is interesting. Have they decided that people just don't need a home phone service?
No, they've decided not to offer a phone service due to the cost of battery back up.


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Standard User Icaras
(member) Wed 20-Aug-14 12:07:54
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Re: VM building FTTP in Papworth Everard


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
In reply to a post by Icaras:
This is interesting. Have they decided that people just don't need a home phone service?
No, they've decided not to offer a phone service due to the cost of battery back up.


I understand that! But BT use a backup, what I'm saying is they've obviously decided that the cost doesn't justify it, in other words people aren't bothered enough about having a landline now for it to be worth it. And they are probably right.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 20-Aug-14 12:16:06
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Presumably Virgin don't have a USO to provide phone services everywhere, so they can reduce the price by not providing a phone. This could seriously affect BT's ability to compete with them, unless BT start offering FTTP without a phone too.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Aug-14 13:12:33
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Re: VM building FTTP in Papworth Everard


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What on that thread proves it is a FTTP roll-out and not just fibres being installed to cabinets and small tubing for subsequent coax to homes.

The new phone bit could just as easily be VM looking to start doing just coax without the twisted pair and use VoIP over the DOCSIS.

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Standard User Icaras
(member) Wed 20-Aug-14 15:03:02
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You make a good point Andrew. The fact their are installing cabinets would suggest it isn't FTTP.

However the contractor from the firm installing it was insistent it was FTTP.
Standard User Mark07
(newbie) Wed 20-Aug-14 15:56:29
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Maybe they plan to run further fibre to the property if the customer orders FTTP?

Can't imagine they can install it on everyone's house without their permission and is cheaper for them to only install it to the premises that want it

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 20-Aug-14 16:04:28
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With FTTP it is normal to deploy to a small pavement chamber/pot and then run the final 20m or so to the home only when someone actually orders.

Just waiting on confirmation of some wording from Virgin

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Standard User Icaras
(member) Wed 20-Aug-14 18:52:52
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
With FTTP it is normal to deploy to a small pavement chamber/pot and then run the final 20m or so to the home only when someone actually orders.

Just waiting on confirmation of some wording from Virgin


Even so, it doesn't look like a standard coax setup there though. They never have little pipes poking up from the ground like they have put in there. The pipes look too thin to take coax also.
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