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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Dec-14 16:31:04
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G.Fast and FTTP


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If G.fast was taken up by Open reach, in a more meaningful way, would this give bt and the uk some breathing space from the need for fttp to be deployed ?

Also would g.fast reduce the costs of FttpOD?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 06-Dec-14 17:20:44
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Re: G.Fast and FTTP


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Given standard only just set you cannot berate an operator for not using g.fast yet

As I see it some more areas would get fttp and others g.fast all depending on the costs. Whether fod would be cheaper depends if the fibre to dp supported gpon as an option. Most likely to be the case as they have done same with fibre so far

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Standard User TheEulerID
(regular) Sat 06-Dec-14 18:29:43
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Re: G.Fast and FTTP


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I would have thought so too. The incremental cost of an extra fibre or two will be trivial. What I'd then expect is a (much cheaper) FTTPoD product to cover the running of the fibre to the property from the node. (The first one enabled would need a splitter too, but I imagine they aren't very expensive).

Of course this is speculation at this stage, but it would surely make sense to allow for it.


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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Dec-14 18:45:58
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Re: G.Fast and FTTP


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yeah thats what i was thinking of that bt could use fibre to the kerb to get FTToD costs lower and then allow the customer to pay for the last meters which could be put onto a 2 year contract or as a lump sum.

The whole point of the subject was about the best way forward to full fttp.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 06-Dec-14 18:52:55
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If I was asked by BT I would suggest demand led choice of fttp versus g.fast where if enough would go for fttp and higher speed packages that full fibre installed on a dp.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 06-Dec-14 19:06:23
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Re: G.Fast and FTTP


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Am I missing something?

What has G.Fast got to do with the cost of FTTPoD?

Or are you assuming FTTdp + G.Fast in the first place? Then I can see the connection between the two.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 06-Dec-14 19:10:35
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G.fast needs fibre to the dp so reducing potential distance needed for fod

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 06-Dec-14 19:16:41
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Needs?

I know it is suggested, but I wasn't aware it needed it.

If they are going to put stuff at the top of poles, those are so close to the premises that G.Fast in the medium term becomes unnecessary.

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Standard User TheEulerID
(regular) Sat 06-Dec-14 19:22:30
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Re: G.Fast and FTTP


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I'd call it FTTPoD if things like splitters had to be installed. Also the final leg of the fibre run might be a bit longer than on FTTP, depending on where the FTTrN or G.Fast node would be. However, it would be a fraction of the connection cost of the current service as there's much less fibre to run, and I'd expect monthly costs to be comparable to copper-based for the same speeds (the installation charge could cover any capital costs fully).

Anyway, just my thoughts at this stage. The advantage of G.Fast is that it saves a whole lot of work as that last run and replacing in-house masters is the most time consuming. It's especially true in my case which uses direct buried cable in the street.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Dec-14 19:25:48
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Not berating them as such but there is a criticism of bt using every single copper technology before full fttp. I understand the full costs of doing full fibre to the house and that bt wants to keep its leased lines business going as long as possible.
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