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Standard User libf
(newbie) Thu 09-Apr-15 16:14:20
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Hi,

I'm looking at buying a house on a development which is getting native FTTP. Are BT the only provider of this? Reading through the news articles it seems that Infinity 3 and 4 are £35/£50 on top of the line rental of £16.99, which seems very expensive when I'm used to paying Sky £7.50 for my 'regular' broadband (although admittedly this is shockingly slow...)

Thanks!
Standard User MCM
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 09-Apr-15 16:20:57
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If Infinity 3 and 4 are too expensive then choose one of Infinity 1 or 2. All 4 are available on FTTP.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Thu 09-Apr-15 16:26:50
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You get what you pay for!

You said it yourself!

I know of very few other ISP's that do supply Native FTTP but I can assure you their prices will make you eyes water, specially if you think BT's are unreasonably expensive.

Plusnet Unlimited 21CN 4200/800 @ 4.2Km > TP-Link TD-W8968v3 - BQM IPv4
Plusnet Fibre Extra 66000/20000 @ 450m > HG612 (Unlocked) > Linksys LRT224 - BQM IPv4


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Standard User nemeth782
(member) Thu 09-Apr-15 18:30:28
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It's a problem caused by the enforced competition rubbish we have, whereby there isn't really competition just loads of companies reselling one of the companies' products.

FTTP is a tiny proportion of the rollout, but is available to ISPs at the same prices as FTTC, with almost identical ordering systems etc. The differences are purely technical.

So, instead of a VDSL router, and no Openreach modem, as most ISPs go for these days, you need a special openreach modem (not an FTTC one) or "ONT". You always get the promised speed (the max sync for FTTC) so even if you order the lower FTTC matching products, you will get exactly 40/10 or 80/20 no matter what.

These other ISPs go "Hmm, but this is a tiny proportion of the market, and means training our staff to deal with a different set of calls. Let's just not bother" and suddenly BT is your only FTTP isp.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Thu 09-Apr-15 18:46:17
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So from that logic... ISP's that take part in FTTP will automatically install FTTP if available for a service that might originally be designed for FTTC.

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Standard User EddyTheDog
(newbie) Thu 09-Apr-15 18:50:15
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The business grade providers will generally supply it, other than that you'd be looking at those that come under the BT Consumer umbrella, so BT Retail and Plusnet. With Plusnet, you'd need to join with ADSL then apply to the FTTP trial.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 09-Apr-15 20:02:41
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Important - You said getting, FTTP roll-outs are often not the fastest thing with some people waiting a year or two after seeing work start but then stop. The build rate is improving though.

If budgets are tight then Infinity 1 bought when they have the reduced price and voucher offers will be the cheapest option.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 09-Apr-15 22:39:21
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Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Apr-15 23:48:03
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The offers are usually quite good and if you go through a cashback site it can make a difference

It really is worth the money - no DLM for a start would tempt most people

If you pay for phone 12 months in advance with BT Call Saver you save on line rental

Be* Unlimited
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Fri 10-Apr-15 00:42:47
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Important - You said getting, FTTP roll-outs are often not the fastest thing with some people waiting a year or two after seeing work start but then stop. The build rate is improving though.
Will be 4 years wait since they started ours come October shocked LOL.
Don't time fly tongue

Saying that BT have been busy clearing up redundant cables from their underground networks between our area and the exchange, according to roadworks.org.
So maybe it was a bit over crowed or blocked.

So hopefully not long now LOL.

Paul
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