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Standard User pouser
(regular) Wed 02-Sep-15 12:56:41
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BT Fibre self install?


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Hi

When I had fibre installed at my last house (2011) BT installed a 'white box' after the main inlet and the modem was connected to the box.

Does this still have to be done by BT or is Fibre self install nowadays?

Steve
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 02-Sep-15 12:59:34
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In reply to a post by pouser:
Hi

When I had fibre installed at my last house (2011) BT installed a 'white box' after the main inlet and the modem was connected to the box.

Does this still have to be done by BT or is Fibre self install nowadays?

Steve


"White Box"? What did it look like - apart from being white and a box? Size, connections, labels, LEDs &c


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(staff) Wed 02-Sep-15 13:08:19
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Presume it looked like

I guess MHC is wondering if the original poster was describing a native FTTP fibre ONT unit.

FTTC based installs are generally self install these days though. So depends on what is meant by BT Fibre (99% chance poster means FTTC)



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Standard User TheEulerID
(member) Wed 02-Sep-15 13:09:57
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I'm not sure what it could be between the socket and the modem apart from a microfilter (which would be an odd choice). I could only imagine that done if there wasn't a modern master socket (but surely a BT engineer would have replaced it).

In any event, for most ISPs it's self-install unless arranged otherwise. However, VDSL is even more sensitive to good domestic wiring than ADSL so it is as well to make sure it's optimised.. An installation with multiple extensions with microfilters hanging off them is not the way to go.
Standard User pouser
(regular) Wed 02-Sep-15 13:21:45
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Yes is will be FTTC

The openreach style box you pictured was in the house already and a further oblong box was installed from that and the modem plugged into that. Shows in this pic as vdsl modem?

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/steve6501/w...

Steve

Edited by pouser (Wed 02-Sep-15 13:22:52)

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Main inlet might be referring to a junction box but guessing.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 02-Sep-15 14:54:18
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smile
Not "shown as". But "is". You appear to be calling it a white box, and calling the router a modem.

With self-install the Openreach modem (white box) is not normally supplied, and if there isn't a VDSL2 filter plate as per the picture MrSaffron posted you either use a dangly filter or get one of those and fit it yourself. (Which is usually a five-minute job).

Incidentally the phone socket in the diagram you give doesn't look at all correct. I don't know where you got it, but compare with MrSaffron's.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 02-Sep-15 14:56:32)

Standard User pouser
(regular) Wed 02-Sep-15 15:00:58
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Hi

I don't have a picture of the actual install since I moved 18 months ago.

Why would I have needed the Vdsl modem and also a router?

BT Installed the kit for me.

S
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 02-Sep-15 15:14:04
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In the early years of FTTC all installations were by engineer and all had the stand-alone modem. This was so that Openreach had full control of what was attached to the line whilst they got to know how things would be in bulk usage, rather than small-volume testing.

The same happened with ADSL. It's just that most of us only know about self-install ADSLx.

The router could be anything you chose, and still can be. However, combo modem/routers such as we are used to on ADSLx have to conform to detailed Openreach specifications if you want to be sure of ongoing compatibility as they improve the FTTC technology.

BT Consumer, Sky and TalkTalk all now supply combos that they of course have ensured fit the specifications.

At the start when engineer installs were all you could have, there were two levels of that - in fact there still are. The basic job included checking the modem worked, the more expensive (to the ISP) job included installing the router (BT HomeHub for example).

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Standard User pouser
(regular) Wed 02-Sep-15 15:24:06
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Hi

Thanks for the explanation.

I assume BT adjust the line at the Fibre cabinet, I install the modem and job is done

smile

Steve

Edited by pouser (Wed 02-Sep-15 15:33:53)

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