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Standard User chilting
(learned) Mon 14-Dec-15 09:54:46
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West Sussex BDUK Phase 2 - Lost in a sea of blue!


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West Sussex CC have finally got around to telling us what they are doing in the period up to December 2017. Maybe there is more to come, maybe not?

Looking at their excellent new high level roll out map, on the Better Connected website, we can see that it is good news for some. A few of the larger village settlements are set to benefit and there also seems to be some copper rearrangement going on for SOME long lines - but not many!

The appropriate use of the colour blue on the maps key shows up very clearly how many of us have missed out so far with regard to the fixed wired solution. With nothing in the pipeline I think it is fair to assume that a line can now be drawn and we will simply get nothing!

With the prospect of a satellite solution on the horizon things are starting to look bleak. However, for some of us it does look like Fixed Wireless will come to the rescue. Blaze and Kijoma both look well placed to provide us with a service that will actually probably be far better than anything we could have expected from BT.
Standard User kasg
(knowledge is power) Tue 15-Dec-15 11:40:50
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Re: West Sussex BDUK Phase 2 - Lost in a sea of blue!


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Link: http://www.westsussex-betterconnected.org.uk/media/1...

That is a lot of blue. I was very lucky to be in the commercial roll-out area, by a whisker.

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Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Tue 15-Dec-15 12:17:29
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Re: West Sussex BDUK Phase 2 - Lost in a sea of blue!


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Remember that 95% of the country (E+W) lives in 10% of the land area.

While the target remains only 95% of the population, you'd very much expect the maps to be predominantly blue.


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Standard User kasg
(knowledge is power) Tue 15-Dec-15 12:20:07
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Yes, a bit like mobile phone coverage, where there are vast swathes of the country with no coverage at all - usually the exact spot you happen to be!

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Edited by kasg (Tue 15-Dec-15 12:21:03)

Standard User godsell4
(member) Tue 15-Dec-15 12:47:57
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Re: West Sussex BDUK Phase 2 - Lost in a sea of blue!


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In reply to a post by chilting:
The appropriate use of the colour blue on the maps key shows up very clearly how many of us have missed out so far with regard to the fixed wired solution. With nothing in the pipeline I think it is fair to assume that a line can now be drawn and we will simply get nothing!


Well I think it is clear right now nobody knows what is going to happen in Phase3. The BDUK trials of Fixed Wireless are behind schedule and it seems those trial results will not be available until mid or late 2016 at the earliest.

And what about those Blue areas, do many of them actually have cabinets and did they get any upgrades in Phase1? When BT actually figures out what it can do with G.Fast is BT allowed to roll out G.Fast into those Blue areas?

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Standard User chilting
(learned) Tue 15-Dec-15 14:07:06
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Re: West Sussex BDUK Phase 2 - Lost in a sea of blue!


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The blue areas don't have cabinets that can be upgraded. BDUK phase one has upgraded every cabinet in West Sussex.

It is true that most of the land area that isn't covered has a lower population density but some smaller settlements have still been left untouched so far, although the second phase is targeting a good few.

Most of the blue area is made up of less populated areas, as is obvious, but the main problem with these areas is that they are often served by multiple cabinets and sometimes more than one exchange. The complications of upgrading these sorts of areas and the capital required to basically put in a new network make a fixed wired solution very impractical. That is why fixed wireless will be a better option to cover the blue areas on the map.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 15-Dec-15 14:11:48
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Are you sure every cabinet in West Sussex has been upgraded? That would suggest that only EO and long lines fail to get high speeds.
Standard User chilting
(learned) Tue 15-Dec-15 14:21:51
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Yes, phase one has been very though in that regard. There may still be a few cabinets in one or two exchange areas that are in the process of being upgraded.

Also lots of the EO lines have also been transfered to new cabinets but I am not sure just what percentage..

The problem is simply lines more than 2km long. We have residents on the West Chiltington exchange that are 5.5km from the exchange. Also the ad hock way that the service has been installed over the last 50 years means that many residents are not served by their closest cabinet.
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(staff) Tue 15-Dec-15 14:45:51
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Not looked at the missing cabinets but it is not many at all since the fibre based coverage is sitting at 98.3%

https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/index.php?area...

As with other parts of the UK there is FTTP sometimes appearing for longer lines and Northern Ireland has shown how cabinets can be inserted deeper into the network too.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User chilting
(learned) Tue 15-Dec-15 15:18:01
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The Think Broadband figures for the Arundel and South Downs constituency give a very clear picture of the state of play for rural West Sussex at the end of the BDUK first phase.

With just 77.2% superfast coverage and with 9.2% under the new 10Mbps USC it is clear that we do need a very effective fixed wireless network to fill the gaps. The second phase of the BDUK project has only very modest ambitions.
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