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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-16 08:35:17
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Sky rule out own FTTP network


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Shocker - Sky are fine with £1.4 billion a year on football rights, roughly equivalent to BT's entire FTTC CapEx spend, but draw the line at building their own network preferring to wholesale BT.

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Jeremy Darroch, chief executive, ruled out plans to build its own national fibre network in Britain despite Ofcom’s attempts to tempt other broadband companies to invest in infrastructure to compete with BT’s Openreach unit. Sky told Ofcom, the telecoms regulator, as part of a submission this year that it had been “exploring in detail the possibility of investing in last mile fibre networks” to compete with Openreach but Mr Darroch said that the company was more comfortable as a wholesaler of Openreach’s fibre.


Standard User lee111s
(committed) Fri 22-Apr-16 08:42:47
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Never saw that one coming.

Perhaps now they'll settle down with their whinging about Openreach's slow FTTP roll out now they hopefully understand the costs and timescales involved.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 22-Apr-16 08:43:16
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Presumably down to risk and return. Competing in the last mile is generally not simple (otherwise you would think Virgin would be aiming for 100% coverage as they already have the tools and staff to deliver the last mile).


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 22-Apr-16 08:54:12
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So, they have analysed all of the cost and can see it is very expensive with a very low long term ROI with potentially very negative returns in the first few years. I would guess they would be basing their analysis on the charges BT levies for supply of services to them and others along with their own experience of customer service and take up.

Will this make them, and potentially others such as TalkTalk, realise that BT (Openreach) and not making a massive profit on supplying the service and that there are some very very high costs involved. And then to stop whingeing to OFCOM every few weeks about another BT/BTOR rip off which is rarely proven - and all it does is push up BT costs which are then ultimately put back on the FTTC/P projects.


As the old saying goes "Put up or shut up"


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(staff) Fri 22-Apr-16 09:09:55
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Everyone must be wrong as I thought everyone in the telecoms and tech industry drove around in a Tesla Model X and spent their time at Gatsby parties

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 22-Apr-16 09:11:23
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cant blame them, its financial suicide to build a network against the current incumbent, I would be the same, ok to invest as stakeholder of openreach, otherwise no no.

if you wanted them to invest should have voted for openreach split. Its as if you want it both ways. smile

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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-16 10:35:42
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Never saw that one coming.

Perhaps now they'll settle down with their whinging about Openreach's slow FTTP roll out now they hopefully understand the costs and timescales involved.


It should be mentioned that the costs Sky were facing were considerably higher than those Openreach face.

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-16 10:38:21
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So, they have analysed all of the cost and can see it is very expensive with a very low long term ROI with potentially very negative returns in the first few years. I would guess they would be basing their analysis on the charges BT levies for supply of services to them and others along with their own experience of customer service and take up.

Will this make them, and potentially others such as TalkTalk, realise that BT (Openreach) and not making a massive profit on supplying the service and that there are some very very high costs involved. And then to stop whingeing to OFCOM every few weeks about another BT/BTOR rip off which is rarely proven - and all it does is push up BT costs which are then ultimately put back on the FTTC/P projects.


As the old saying goes "Put up or shut up"


I kinda agree although again it should be noted that the costs to Openreach of deploying FTTP are considerably lower than those Sky or anyone else face. Putting fibre in existing ducts is somewhat cheaper than having to build new ducts unless you go out of your way to make it expensive.

Sky aren't fans of long term investment on the whole anyway.

Others who are should show their faces shortly. smile

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 22-Apr-16 10:48:19
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Is the Openreach price for duct sharing prohibitive?

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Standard User Icaras
(committed) Fri 22-Apr-16 10:52:46
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Is the Openreach price for duct sharing prohibitive?


Presumably there's cheaper pricing coming as part of the upcoming Ofcom agreement. But Sky have ruled out FTTP without even seeing any potential new prices.
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