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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Sep-16 11:43:14
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How OR handles full FTTC cabs

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Interesting article here on ISPreview:

How Openreach (BT) Handles Full to Capacity FTTC Broadband Cabinets

I wasn't aware that BDUK funded cabs cannot be upgraded using public funds which probably explains why my local FTTC cab (NSICL #6) has been full to capacity most of the time since going live in April 2014!!

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Sep-16 12:42:43
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Re: How OR handles full FTTC cabs

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Cabinets do normally get capacity upgrades and BDUK ones are done and paid for by Openreach

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Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Fri 16-Sep-16 14:59:05
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Re: How OR handles full FTTC cabs

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It isn't so much that the BDUK-funded cabinets cannot be upgraded using public funds. It is more that the public funds have already met the gap between the maximum commercial cost and the actual cost. Once the gap has been covered by subsidy, the cabinet is as commercially viable as the next - including the needs to upgrade.

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Standard User eckiedoo
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Sep-16 18:01:56
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Re: How OR handles full FTTC cabs

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An aspect not mentioned applies definitely to the local FTTC cabinet and probably to most in the larger surrounding area.

The local PCP apparently has 287 lines through it.

The FTTC cabinet is a Huawei, capable of taking 288 upgrades, absolute maximum.

It apparently has all six DSLAM Cards in it; but not 100% certain.

These connect to a back-plane which can take up to 288 Filter/Links, superficially looking like miniature circuit-breakers or fuses. The back-plane is the main component in the right-hand side of the FTTC cabinet, with the linking cables to/from the PCP rising up from directly below.

Virtually everything else is on the left.

These Filter/Links are essential parts of the circuitry, in providing VDSL.

When first released for service in March 2014, only the first two sub-groups on the back-plane had the F/Ls fitted, allowing a temporary maximum of 48 VDSL Upgrades.

About May 2015, another 48 F/Ls were fitted, taking about 5 minutes as I spoke to the person actually doing it. (He had another 20 to 25 cabinets to do in the wider area that day, asking directions as to how to get to one, as he was unfamiliar with that area, about 10 miles away.

This would allow a new temporary maximum of 96 upgrades.

About May this year, there was an upgrade being carried out at the PCP; and that person told me that it was the 64th, there already being 63 carried out over the previous 26 months, less than 3 per month average.

So you may be encountering one of those temporary maxima, rather than the absolute total for your FTTC cabinet.

I don't know how you can establish which version you are encountering.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 17-Sep-16 18:10:57
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My cab is in the process of having a twin installed. Has been for going on a month now. Cass have been on site for the last three weeks. They have put tents up over the original PCP and the new cabinet. The first FTTC cab went live within a couple of weeks of it appearing. This one seems to be causing them a lot more trouble. Doesn't make much sense to me.

I'm pretty sure they are the reason I've lost 7Mb/s off my connection speed. Seems a helluva coincidence. In late July I got a speed boost after over 130 days of solid connection. Then three weeks later these fools turn up and suddenly I take a dive to the lowest speed I've ever seen.

All I can do now is wait until they finish mucking about (which will be the new year the way they are going) then report a fault to my ISP and hope DLM can be reset.

Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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