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Standard User SLAMDUNC
(learned) Mon 17-Oct-16 19:50:24
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What's an R Structure?


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Our latest SuperfastEssex map has us down as to be upgraded using a R Structure.
Anyone know what that is? No mention of upgrading our cabinet (Newport 10), just this.

I know locally (Broxted) the cabinet there was upgraded with a microwave link to the exchange - could this be the same?
Standard User rogan8
(knowledge is power) Mon 17-Oct-16 20:01:09
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Radio I would imagine
Standard User SLAMDUNC
(learned) Mon 17-Oct-16 20:29:01
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I found this elsewhere:
"But with our phase 2 coverage, nearly half the coverage is based on an R structure, the R annotating a Rearrange"

Maybe R Structure = new cabinet? Doesn't say how it's linked to the exchange though.


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Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Mon 17-Oct-16 20:39:42
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Could be for EO lines or lines that wouldn't make 24mbps on their current cab due to distance.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 17-Oct-16 21:55:55
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From that it seems to mean what Openreach call "Network Re-arrangement".

This can be moving EO lines over to a new cabinet inserted between the exchange and the user, and for users on a cabinet further away than one a close neighbour is on, so the neighbour may get a 60Mbps connection but they get only get 15Mbps estimate.

Dealing with groups of EO lines is happening quite a lot now, now that the easy bulk upgrades from ADSLx are done and BDUK projects are completing. For an individual very unhappy about the difference between their line and one two doors away or across the road - with the telegraph pole the neighbour is on only 30 metres away, it is almost impossible to obtain. Openreach will quote ludicrous prices.

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Standard User SLAMDUNC
(learned) Tue 18-Oct-16 13:21:44
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No EO lines round here AFAIK and cabinets are pretty sparse: 1 in Quendon; next in Wicken Bonhunt a good 3 miles away, Newport exchange is a similar distance away as the crow flies.

What is notable though is that the Openreach website says they are upgrading the cabinet (commercially, in a rural area, 3 miles from the exchange) - although Gigaclear are trying to drum up interest in the village too.

So the cabinet is out of scope of BDUK, but these R Structures remain in-scope.
Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Tue 18-Oct-16 13:36:55
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Codelook reports quite a few exchange only bundles (assuming I'm looking at the right exchange Newport, Saffron Walden, Essex)

There also seems to be 3 new cabinets in the desing phase E_2 E_4 and E_6 which could quite possibly be cabinets for exchange only rearrangement.

Cabinet 10 on codelook shows as being in Build phase expected Feb 2017.

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Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Tue 18-Oct-16 18:53:38
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Googling for the same phrase, I probably found the same thing... and the rest of the quote is instructive here:
The challenge with being specific about coverage at a premise level, is the distance each property is from the cabinet. We normally have the eastings and northings of the existing PCP, which in your case is PCP 3 (Turville Heath Exchange). But with our phase 2 coverage, nearly half the coverage is based on an R structure, the R annotating a Rearrange. In other words even if you happen to know the location of the cabinet, the actual final site of the new structure may be located elsewhere, normally where Openreach can pick up the most number of premises which would then be able to receive 24Mb+. This is simply not known until on the ground surveys are completed, and these are now typically only one full quarter ahead of the planned works commencing.


That suggests that a whole new cabinet is going to be built, located somewhere different from where cab 10 currently sits. Codelook says it is part of "Phase SEP Essex 17a", so not commercial.
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