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Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Tue 15-Nov-16 10:29:31
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I didn't mean G.fast would be free.

If someone is on 80/20 and want more speed, then I imagine they'd be more likely to pay the premium for G.Fast than if they were already getting say 110mbps from an unrestricted VDSL connection.
Standard User Nightglow
(member) Tue 15-Nov-16 10:53:00
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[re: lee111s] [link to this post]
 
Would be nice if they gave use a free speed increase, change profile from 80/20 to 120/20, then you pay extra for 160/20 & upwards.
And also tweak lower profile say to 60/20 to help those on the lower speeds, I kmow a few who can't get 80/20, but could get around 57/15.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:00:50
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[re: Nightglow] [link to this post]
 
There is a potential scenario where a VDSL2 cab runs out of ports but G.fast ports are available, and they might move people across to free up VDSL2 capacity. Whether that would happen no idea but the wholesale and EOI requirements make that sort of thing harder

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Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:08:26
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Re: Openreach to rollout 3dB target SNRm for FTTC next year


[re: Nightglow] [link to this post]
 
Not a very good business model.
Standard User kasg
(knowledge is power) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:38:52
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I guess this could benefit me. My SNRM hovers around 5dB and my sync is over 4Mbps higher than my attainable, which is presumably based on 6dB.

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Standard User 23Prince
(committed) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:46:24
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Re: Openreach to rollout 3dB target SNRm for FTTC next year


[re: lee111s] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by lee111s:
I didn't mean G.fast would be free.

If someone is on 80/20 and want more speed, then I imagine they'd be more likely to pay the premium for G.Fast than if they were already getting say 110mbps from an unrestricted VDSL connection.


Well that's pretty much the way it's been on Virgin for a long time when they did free boosts but also offered higher tiers, If BT went that way I think it would be a very good business model to adopt
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:47:53
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Re: Openreach to rollout 3dB target SNRm for FTTC next year


[re: Nightglow] [link to this post]
 
BT Consumer offer 55/10. Not as well as, but instead of, 40/10.

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Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Tue 15-Nov-16 11:52:49
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Virgin operate their own network AND bill end users.

Openreach is completely different.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 15-Nov-16 12:03:14
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[re: lee111s] [link to this post]
 
Openreach builds where its customers, the Communications Providers, want it to. Those Communications Providers being BT Wholesale, Sky, TalkTalk and Vodafone. Plus a few small fry who do not use any of those.
BT is the largest fixed broadband provider in the UK, with a market share of 31 per cent. Sky and Virgin Media both have a market share of about 20 per cent, while TalkTalk has a 15 per cent share and EE has 3 per cent.
That's for mid-2015, according to the Financial Times.

BT Wholesale and Openreach are part of BT Group, and it is unrealistic to think pricing structures are not discussed at Group level, even if BT Wholesale is excluded from the discussion.

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Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Tue 15-Nov-16 12:36:48
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I stand by my point that it's very unlikely that VDSL2 on the Openreach network will go above 80/20.
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