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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 20-Jan-17 18:55:45
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Faster FTTPoD now offered by Openreach


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As of today, 20 January, the Openreach price list shows:-

Up to 330Mbit/s/30Mbit/s 01/05/2014 Base installation 750.00 Annual rental 1,188.00
Up to 500Mbit/s/165Mbit/s 20/01/2017 Base installation 1158.00 Annual rental 1,392.00
Up to 1000Mbit/s/220Mbit/s 20/01/2017 Base installation 1158.00 Annual rental 1,692.00

All plus the same (unchanged) distance related charges and Vat.

The new products are not showing on native FTTP.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 21-Jan-17 02:01:01
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async speeds to keep market segmented frown

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Standard User craski
(member) Sat 21-Jan-17 09:44:55
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I'd love to install one of these if I could find an ISP who will provide.

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Standard User AndyHCZ
(committed) Sat 21-Jan-17 10:01:18
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Try BT Business.

Also, try these - https://www.homeandwork.openreach.co.uk/fibre-broadb...

It's going to be bespoke, so they won't advertise on their websites.
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(staff) Sat 21-Jan-17 10:24:01
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Would a 220/220 synchronous package make people happier?

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Jan-17 12:08:32
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Would a 220/220 synchronous package make people happier?

Well if any of those 3 packages was to become available for FTTP if I was to upgrade, I would probably go for the middle one of 500Mbps down and 165Mbps up if the price is right, while the down stream is only increasing by 40% the upload is increased by nearly 82%.

Going by the price of Infinity 4 I am assuming the price of 500:165 would be about £58 p/m (£696 p/y)

Also while 1000:220 would be cool to have, but most of that bandwidth would just be a waste for the home, for businesses that might be enough and also in their price bracket of about ~£70.

Please note all quoted prices are just estimations and are most probably incorrect.

But until BT resolve all the congestion out, I cannot see them providing those speeds without having some issues.

Paul

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Standard User AndyHCZ
(committed) Sat 21-Jan-17 12:52:08
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Your prices are going to be quite off. For GEA-FTTP:

1000/220 is £1,152 (per year/inc VAT) with Openreach, so £96.00 a month
500/165 is £792 (per year/inc VAT) with Openreach, so £66.00 a month

These are just the rental costs for the ISP for the connection so once an ISP adds their costs to it, I think you're looking at around £100 per month for the 500/165 and £140+ per month for the 1000/220.

As far as I am aware, BT Wholesale is 'investigating' the demand for the higher end new native FTTP speeds. I would be very surprised if we see them on a residential level with BT Retail this year though.

From May 2017, BT Wholesale will add the 160/30 and 330/50 speeds to their FTTP portfolio. These are to align what G.fast is going to offer in the future. As a random guess, I would assume BT Retail will then offer 40/10, 80/20, 160/30 and 330/50 as their product portfolio for FTTP.

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Standard User burakkucat
(experienced) Sat 21-Jan-17 13:45:02
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
async speeds to keep market segmented frown
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Would a 220/220 synchronous package make people happier?

Perhaps you both intended to use the words asymmetric and symmetric, respectively!

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 21-Jan-17 14:13:47
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Correction to my Opening Post. These two products have in fact been available on native FTTP since 7 December 2016.

I discovered this just now on going to check AndyHCZ's figures as I didn't see them in the price list when making the OP. That's because I didn't spot the word "transition" in the price list on this page.

I still don't know what that means other than they are only available if there is an existing copper phone line present, and are at a lower rental cost than the non-transitional found by scrolling down the page a bit. That gives a second table at higher prices for the same things and also these two products.

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Jan-17 14:25:18
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Your prices are going to be quite off. For GEA-FTTP:

1000/220 is £1,152 (per year/inc VAT) with Openreach, so £96.00 a month
500/165 is £792 (per year/inc VAT) with Openreach, so £66.00 a month

These are just the rental costs for the ISP for the connection so once an ISP adds their costs to it, I think you're looking at around £100 per month for the 500/165 and £140+ per month for the 1000/220.

Well I know I would be off, I just compared the monthly cost of 300:30 package and divided the cost with what we pay for ours which equalled to 24.
So I just divided both of those prices with 24 and come up with the prices I said, which wasn't too far off LOL.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:
As far as I am aware, BT Wholesale is 'investigating' the demand for the higher end new native FTTP speeds. I would be very surprised if we see them on a residential level with BT Retail this year though.

This is true.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:
From May 2017, BT Wholesale will add the 160/30 and 330/50 speeds to their FTTP portfolio. These are to align what G.fast is going to offer in the future. As a random guess, I would assume BT Retail will then offer 40/10, 80/20, 160/30 and 330/50 as their product portfolio for FTTP.

I would be interested in the 330:50 (i.e. the extra 20Mbps up) but its all down to whether BT actually sell the 50 Mbps upstream product, I know they don't do the 330 Mbps and what BT do sell is 300, so that's 30Mbps lower.

Also wasn't there to be a ~500 Mbps downstream package that they was also suppose to be providing at the same time their ~500 Mbps G.Fast package?

Paul

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