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Standard User broadbandFlash
(newbie) Sat 05-Aug-17 12:21:09
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Safe to Assume FTTP is Available Prior to Buying Property?


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We're looking at buying a house in Wales. It needs good broadband as I work from home. The indications seem to be that it has FTTP (checked via BT dsl checker tool on the telelphone number, BT Broadband availability tool, BT's superfast broadband site). Sam knows says it isn't available.

My question, is there any way of double checking this, or any chance we'll get there and find its wrong? I do notice that doing checks (by way of postcode then selecting correct address) on neighbouring up or down the line seems to suggest they'd can't get fiber, which is confusing me.

I can see at least one green pole mounted fibre splitter on a telegraph pole on the road if that means anything. The current occupiers use standard ADSL from another supplier, so I don't know of anyone using fibre in the road, which is sparsley populated.

Not being able to upload the images, I'll try pasting the relevant text below, hopefully it won't look unreadable!:

[Does anyone know where I can put the relelvant screen shot up online. Each of the image sharing sites seems...well full of popups and not sure I'd put anything on them!]

BT BROADBAND AVAILABILITY CHECKER (checked against telephone number)
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Featured Products | Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Downstream Range(Mbps) | WBC FTTP Availability Date

WBC FTTP | Upto 330 | Upto 30 | -- | Available

ADSL Products | Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Downstream Range(Mbps) | Availability Date | Left in Jumper
WBC ADSL 2+ | Up to 2.5 | -- | 1.5 to 3.5 | Available | --
ADSL Max | Up to 2.5 | -- | 1.5 to 3.5 | Available | --
WBC Fixed Rate | 0.5 | -- | -- | Available | --
Fixed Rate | 0.5 | -- | -- | Available | --
|
Other Offerings | | | | Availability Date
VDSL Multicast | -- | -- | -- | Available --
ADSL Multicast | -- | -- | -- | Available --

Premise environment Status
Bridge Tap U
VRI N
NTEFaceplate N
Last Test Date 16-05-2017


BT OPENREACH "WHEN CAN I GET FIBRE" (checked against telephone number)
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Great news, you can order a Fibre to the Premises service today.

Check with one of these Service Providers to see if they’re offering Ultrafast Fibre in your area.
Cabinet icon

Exchange name: Machynlleth
Exchange status: Fibre enabled
Cabinet number: 4
Technology: FTTP


BT PRODUCTS AND SERVICES BROADBAND AVAILABILITY (checked against telephone number)
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Great news! You could get up to 300Mb speed
Hide results
You could get
Fibre broadband
300Mb Estimated download speed*
Or
Standard broadband
1Mb-3.5Mb Estimated download speed range*
512k Minimum speed guarantee*

SAM Knows
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BT FTTP broadband availability:
You are connected to the Machynlleth telephone exchange.
FTTP is not yet available in your area
» Matched result using the postcode you provided


BT FTTC broadband availability:
You are connected to the Machynlleth telephone exchange.
FTTC is not yet available in your area
» Matched result using the phone you provided


BT ADSL broadband availability:
You are connected to the Machynlleth telephone exchange.
ADSL is available in your area
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL2+ services
Your location should be able to receive service of up to 2Mbps If possible, check with a phone number as these are far more accurate.
» Matched result using the phone you provided
Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 05-Aug-17 13:07:27
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Re: Safe to Assume FTTP is Available Prior to Buying Propert


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Have you spoken to the current own? What do they have?

What's the postcode?
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Sat 05-Aug-17 13:35:45
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Re: Safe to Assume FTTP is Available Prior to Buying Propert


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Those are all number checks, does the address checker return the same result?
It may be able to be confirmed as WBC FTTP available, but it can also run out of capacity, preventing orders.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 05-Aug-17 13:45:43
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Re: Safe to Assume FTTP is Available Prior to Buying Propert


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SamKnows does not always know.

If the checkers let you order at the address then it should be available, being wrong is fairly rare.

Town has a good mixture of FTTC/FTTP in our systems.

If checkers all say yes, and then issues ordering then ISP should pester on your behalf and I can do the same.

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Standard User broadbandFlash
(newbie) Sat 05-Aug-17 19:16:10
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Re: Safe to Assume FTTP is Available Prior to Buying Propert


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The current owners have straight ADSL, supplied by a local Welsh firm I believe. The BT checker seems to say this would be only in the 1.5 to 3.5mb region, so not good enough for our purposes. Will need 30+

The "BT OPENREACH WHEN CAN I GET FIBRE" check is on the address not number also.

Postcode is SY20 8RP.

Only a few properties there seem to say "accepting orders" many say "exploring solutions" or "in scope".

I've noticed the overhead cable does take an odd route up the road, so perhaps thats why.

Sounds like we can expect it to be pretty accurrate then. The only risk is how much capacity is left in cabinet 4?
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Sat 05-Aug-17 19:20:42
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The cabinet is not involved in FTTP
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Sat 05-Aug-17 22:38:01
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Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential OH Potential Wayleave issues for Exchange MACHYNLLETH is served by Cabinet 4.

Edited by adslmax (Sat 05-Aug-17 22:38:45)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 06-Aug-17 09:21:49
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Wayleave issues will be specific to a premise, so as we don't which actual property is being discussed difficult to guess

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Standard User broadbandFlash
(newbie) Sun 06-Aug-17 16:42:33
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Ah ok. Is there any way to know if its reaching/reached capacity?

Presumably if it says "accepting orders" then FTTP 300mb is still available for the property?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 06-Aug-17 17:01:40
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Until you order nothing is certain...

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