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Standard User dohmniq
(newbie) Thu 24-Aug-17 08:50:47
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automatic upgrade from far away cab to new cab?


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We've just moved and FTTC is available from cabinet number 1 but only at speeds around 13 down / 1 up as it's so far away.

There's a brand new cabinet being installed about 100m from our house. Can't work out what the cabinet number is though.

If we order FTTC now and it's supplied via cabinet 1 when the new cabinet goes live will we be automatically shunted over to it and enjoy fast speeds or will we have to do something to have this happen? e.g. cancel / re-order

I'm wondering if I should wait until the new cabinet goes live before ordering in case we're locked into an 18-month contract at slow speeds.

Any had any experience of this?
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 24-Aug-17 09:14:28
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Re: automatic upgrade from far away cab to new cab?


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It depends on what the new cabinet is for. If it is being installed to rearrange the lines in the local area then you should get automatically moved. If it is being installed to add capacity to the area then it is quite possible that you would never be moved. It is unlikely that the timing of you signing up would have any difference.

If you are able to post details of where the cabinet is then some people here may have some insider information as to whether there is a network rearrangement planned with the new cab.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 24-Aug-17 09:14:36
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Re: automatic upgrade from far away cab to new cab?


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You will normally be supplied from cabinet1 and it is unlikely to change unless one of two things happen. Either Openreach are doing a major network re-organisation which does not happen on a whim OR you pay for your line to be re-routed and that will cost thousands. They will not move you just because you ask or order a new service.


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Standard User dohmniq
(newbie) Thu 24-Aug-17 09:25:22
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Re: automatic upgrade from far away cab to new cab?


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Exchange is EAHTM (Hintlesham, Suffolk)

Cabinet 1 is the far away one.
New cabinet is at the end of Cranfield Park, near Burstall Church, roughly IP8 3DT?

I'm hoping it's cabinet P7 as listed on codelook but codelook has no postcode attached and I can't find any site notices or planning listings mentioning it either.
Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 24-Aug-17 09:30:15
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Cabs with no postcode on codelook usually refer to all in one cabinets which are often used to rearrange lines that are too far from their existing cab, or are exchange only.
Standard User witchunt
(committed) Thu 24-Aug-17 12:04:29
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Cab 7 is part of a network rearrangement, so there is a strong possibility that it will include your DP especially considering your current slow speeds
Standard User dohmniq
(newbie) Wed 20-Sep-17 15:25:05
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Well it's all gone a bit weird now...

Just had an OpenReach engineer arrive to check my line but it's apparently disconnected from the network by virtue of being only about 80m long.

I asked him about the shiny new cabinet but he said it wasn't going to serve me as I'm at the end of the line for cabinet 1. Having resigned myself to some, but 'slow', internet I thought I'd recheck my likely speeds via BT's DSL checker but now it says I'm connected to cabinet 7!

However, cabinet 7 doesn't provide fibre connections (yet) so maybe my order will be rejected at the last minute? Or maybe I've shot myself in the foot and the OpenReach engineer is doing to try quite hard to give me a working line and reconnect me to cabinet 1?

Maybe I should cancel my order and wait until cabinet 7 goes properly live?
Is my line length actually about 80m because I'm now connected to cabinet 7?

(Posting because someone else might be in the same situation)
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Wed 20-Sep-17 17:45:24
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If you've changed to the nearer cabinet then it sounds good news. It can take months to activate an infill cabinet, I wouldn't cancel your order, it won't speed anything up. You would be better just being served by cabinet 1 for the moment.

Everyone on cabinet 1 who is being migrated to cabinet 7 should all be moved on the exact same date. You won't be able to order fibre from cabinet 7 till it's live, and those already with fibre will be moved 1st.
Standard User eckiedoo
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 21-Sep-17 07:39:57
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Given that length of 80 M and assuming that your basic phone is NOT working, that suggests that it is a simple break, in one or other or both wires in the pair; or a short-circuit at that distance.

Assuming your basic phone is working and possibly ADSL, then the distance measured by a JDSU or TDR, should be the distance measured from your house (NTE probably) to the Exchange, which you have indicated is well in excess of 80 M.

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There is a very slight chance that your "pair" have been moved into the new Cab 7; but not onward connected to the Exchange.

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A TDR, Time Domain Reflectometer is basically a small, specialised RADAR system, designed to measure wire lengths to breaks or shorts - I used one many times on a variety of circuits - Ethernet, general electrical etc.

As TDR did not mean much to my colleagues, I generally referred to it as "my Pocket Radar Set".

Like radar in degree, the TDR sends a pulse down the wires, being reflected at particularly breaks and shorts, with lesser reflections caused by squeezing, tight corners etc.

A JDSU is similar; but adapted specifically for phone systems.

One maker uses both terms in on-line adverts etc.

Edited by eckiedoo (Thu 21-Sep-17 07:41:02)

Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Thu 21-Sep-17 13:47:27
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In reply to a post by dohmniq:
Just had an OpenReach engineer arrive to check my line but it's apparently disconnected from the network by virtue of being only about 80m long.

Is my line length actually about 80m because I'm now connected to cabinet 7?


A TDR should reflect the full line length to the exchange, with blips where joints are located ... and the PCP will just be blips.

Perhaps your line has been disconnected somewhere, and is now just 80m long in total.

In reply to a post by dohmniq:
now it says I'm connected to cabinet 7!

Maybe I should cancel my order and wait until cabinet 7 goes properly live?


I can't advise as to which way will get you a working connection quickest.

However, I can say that your current order will have picked up the cab identity from the data that existed at the time the order was placed.

If that was cab 1, and you are physically connected to cab 7, then the FTTC order will fail; it will be built internally, allocating a port on cab 1's DSLAM. When the time comes, the order will need to be cancelled and re-ordered a day later.

If it was cab 1, and you are still physically connected to cab 1, then the order will work, though speeds might be low. You will then be subject to a "live to live" migration when all the existing FTTC connections move over together.
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