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Standard User Realalemadrid
(member) Mon 11-Sep-17 13:09:21
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: Michael_Chare] [link to this post]
 
From the OP's earlier thread I believe it's WBC FTTP which can also take many weeks/months to get installed due to lack of resources within Openreach.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 11-Sep-17 13:15:17
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
Hence my question on how disruptive it may be to them.

It really shouldn't be any problem to them at all.

Standard User ferretuk
(member) Mon 11-Sep-17 14:05:44
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
What stage are you at in the purchase?
What does your solicitor say?
What is your plan B?

As others have pointed out, the lead time for an FTTP install *could* be long so does that mean you won't be in a position to exchange contracts until it is in place to test?

I see that you're prepared to pay up front so the current owners are covered but what happens if they give up waiting and sell to someone else in the meantime?

Can't you just ask the current owners to place an order to see what happens, and then cancel it if it is accepted? I don't see the need to test it when installed as will either work at full speed or not at all.

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Standard User broadbandFlash
(newbie) Mon 11-Sep-17 14:31:20
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: ferretuk] [link to this post]
 
Haven't nvolved the solicitor as yet.with this FTTP matter. There is no plan B. I need to manage remote servers. Satellite broadband is not an option due to latency, and 3g isn't in the area. Hence why it is vital to confirm.

If the FTTP order is accepted, does that definately mean it can be installed? I was under the impression the installation engineer on site could still stop the install? I may have assumed incorrectly.

And can it then be cancelled?

How long can the lead time be with BT? Its at the stage of "accepting orders" on their checker, so can it still be months?
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Mon 11-Sep-17 15:12:49
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
That won't work. If WBC FTTP is confirmed at the property then ordering/cancelling an order still leaves you vulnerable to the main possible stumbling block, capacity. It's possible that in between confirming an order is accepted/cancelling the order, and finalising a purchase, capacity on your DP runs out.

From the various options you suggested the only 1 I can see that guarantees an FTTP service is actually ordering it in your own name, with the current owners permission. That means it's your credit at risk if you don't pay. If the sale doesn't go through the worst that can happen to the current owner is they get free FTTP for a year.

Are you willing to risk paying for a year of FTTP if the sale doesn't go through? If so then that's my recommendation.
Standard User broadbandFlash
(newbie) Mon 11-Sep-17 16:56:16
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
Thats my suspicion of the only route.

I suspect there is less customer need (at least not as much as other areas of the country) for fttp in the area, but may be wrong.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 11-Sep-17 17:36:16
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by broadbandFlash:
I suspect there is less customer need (at least not as much as other areas of the country) for fttp in the area, but may be wrong.


If people in the area can't get > 3.5 Mbps on adsl2+ (according to your other thread - thanks Bob) and its a high density neighbourhood, then take up of WBC FTTP is likely to be high.

Edit: just re-read your other thread and I believe the area is SY20 8RP which looks rural so you might be ok wrt capacity issues - but the only way to be 100% sure is to actually place the order with a CP and see what happens.

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Edited by baby_frogmella (Mon 11-Sep-17 17:42:48)

Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 11-Sep-17 18:14:39
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
In SY20 8RP there's just a few properties which are able to order a native FTTP service - others are in scope. For the ones which can, the following appears on the BT dsl checker "single dwelling unit residential overhead feed not evaluated" such as for this address

https://postimg.org/image/beg2e3kid/

Compared to FTTP status at my address:

https://postimg.org/image/l09muebo5/

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Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Mon 11-Sep-17 20:43:42
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Re: Ordering FTTP on a house before buying


[re: broadbandFlash] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by broadbandFlash:
Haven't nvolved the solicitor as yet.with this FTTP matter. There is no plan B. I need to manage remote servers. Satellite broadband is not an option due to latency, and 3g isn't in the area. Hence why it is vital to confirm.

If the FTTP order is accepted, does that definately mean it can be installed? I was under the impression the installation engineer on site could still stop the install? I may have assumed incorrectly.

And can it then be cancelled?

How long can the lead time be with BT? Its at the stage of "accepting orders" on their checker, so can it still be months?


I manage various remote servers over satellite links (their end, mobile units) and it works fine, using SSH, RDP, and Logmein.

However, if your business need really is this great, you should perhaps look at a small leased line anyway. Certainly consumer services have no guarantee of uptime!
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