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Standard User RichElliott
(newbie) Wed 13-Sep-17 11:07:58
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Who owns the Fibre Networks in the UK


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Hi I am trying to find out who owns the Fibre networks in the UK

Specifically in a given city/town who are fibre network operators.

I presume Openreach and Virgin, would have fibre networks in most cities who else?

Thanks
Standard User Toonshorty
(member) Wed 13-Sep-17 11:35:50
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Re: Who owns the Fibre Networks in the UK


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CityFibre have presence in quite a few cities in the UK.

Sky/TalkTalk have a small FTTP network in York.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-Sep-17 11:54:00
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What do you mean by fibre networks?

Fibre to the premises?
Metro fibre?
Core fibre forming a national network between major cities?

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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Wed 13-Sep-17 12:02:22
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Re: Who owns the Fibre Networks in the UK


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I doubt Openreach own the fibre network. It's far more likely that the network is owned by BT.
Standard User RichElliott
(newbie) Wed 13-Sep-17 12:11:29
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Hi MrSaffron,

All 3 would be relevant

However metrofibre woud be the most interesting.

Essentially I would like to know how many metro networks are there in the towns and cities across the UK.

Would it be correct to say that in the majority of towns and cities Openreach and Virgin own metro networks

CityFibre would be the third largest with metro networks in 42 town/cities.

For example in Peterborough ,Virgin, Openreach and CityFibre have a presence is there anyone else and would it be possible to expand this to other cities?
Standard User RichElliott
(newbie) Wed 13-Sep-17 12:18:08
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I believe the fibre in York is a JV between Sky/TalkTalk and CityFibre

Yes CityFibre have metro networks in 42 cities
Standard User kitcat
(experienced) Wed 13-Sep-17 13:35:54
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Rich

The major cities, London, Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Edinburgh , Glasgow have quite a few operators with their own fibre networks, usually to serve Business customers. London has so many that OFCOM deregulated the business market about 15 years ago as BT had (at that time) less than 15% of fibre access customers.

There may be info on the OFCOM site that give some info, look at the last set of private circuit regulatory consultations to get some idea of the scale of networks out there.

Fibre networks for Consumers are a different thing and there are far fewer companies in the sector.
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Wed 13-Sep-17 16:13:34
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Sky also have or had a small FTTP network in Basingstoke. Sky pulled out of the York trial last year and sold their stake to Talk Talk.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-Sep-17 19:05:08
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Whereabouts in Basingstoke please ?

Standard User pernickitypedant
(learned) Wed 13-Sep-17 19:59:30
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Uh, "Openreach" is BT, at least for now. Both are simply trading names of British Telecommunications plc, company no 1800000.

My setup: Huawei HG612 VDSL2 modem. Linksys WRT1900ACS router. AAISP Home::1 80/20 200GB + copper pair on TTB (by request). Sync: 79987/20000 kbit/s, attainable ~91-94000/31-32000 kbit/s via ~180m of 1985 copper to ECI Cabinet 14, Milford Exchange (WMMFD)

BQM: IPv4 & IPv6

ISP Hx: Wanadoo ~2Mb (Orange takeover) > Freedom2Surf ~4Mb (TalkTalk takeover) > Virgin Media 10->30->50->70Mb (unnecessary second line as work reqd BT) > BT Inf 2 80Mb (04/17 rises, no retention offer) > Virgin Media 100Mb (awful pings) > AAISP 80Mb
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Wed 13-Sep-17 20:05:29
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But say Ofcom forces Openreach to be spun off as a standalone company no longer owned by BT, BT will keep the network not Openreach.
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Thu 14-Sep-17 08:53:26
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Not sure of the exact location in Basingstoke because I only recently found out about it when someone on the Basingstoke trial posted on the Sky Community Forums about an outage.

If you Google: Sky FTTP trial Basingstoke, it will bring up several articles about it.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Sep-17 17:46:00
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If you Google: Sky FTTP trial Basingstoke, it will bring up several articles about it.

None of which state where in Basingstoke, and all seem to imply it is in the planning stage thus far.

Some FTTP in the new estate opposite the hospital, but that's Openreach based.

Standard User DougM
(member) Thu 14-Sep-17 18:42:51
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It was in Cranbourne:

http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/11374833.Br...

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DougM
Standard User Darkfibre
(newbie) Thu 14-Sep-17 20:09:43
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there are quite a few networks across the country. Are you looking for dark fibre networks where you can lease fibre and run your own services?

I have a large nunber of maps from various providers. PM me the locations and I will check them against our maps/database

Phil
Standard User Icaras
(experienced) Fri 15-Sep-17 19:29:26
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I would say Vodafone have the 4rd largest fibre network, at least based on my observations in the North West. Itís as a result of many consolidations over the years

Icaras
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